In my world the JVM is a non-starter. I don't care if it fits in a ring (
http://www.javaworld.com/article/2076641/learn-java/an-introduction-to-the-java-ring.html),
culturally it just won't fly. Even Forth has a better chance of making it
than the JVM.

Re: Zulu embedded - "Intel/AMD x86. Please contact us for availability of
ARM, SPARC or other support packages." doesn't work for us.

Re: Lua, and other lisps, sure we could go that route. We already have Lua
in our devices. <shrug> I have a very specific use case in mind that I
think Clojure would be especially well suited for that Lua just doesn't
help me in the same way. YMMV.

I'm sorry you don't like this question. I can assure you that I'm not some
naive wild eyed Clojure fanboy as your responses suggest. I'm simply asking
if anyone else is interested in making this possible, I'll put you down in
the "no" and "hell no" columns. ;-)

I'm sure Rich got a lot of "aren't there already enough actual Lisps that
have been used forever" when he started Clojure. I'm glad they did not
deter him.

Take care.

Alan


On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Raoul Duke <rao...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Both Nim and Pixie ultimately compile to C, and would have just as many
> > layers of indirection.
>
> aaaaaand they are all insane for anything other than learning
> themselves at this point, i'd hazard to guess. but i'm a realist, who
> knows. i'd rather go for a real jvm e.g. azul's embedded stuff, or
> something like that first if at all possible. :-)
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