On 22 Apr 2015, at 20:22, Dave Sann wrote:

> for example: seq on a set cannot be pure unless you were to provide an 
> argument to explicitly specify which order the items should be in. If you do 
> not do this, the order is defined either by some random interaction of the of 
> the data and function implementations - that you thought was irrelevant - or 
> has to be literally picked at random by the implementation. The former of 
> these will appear to be pure until you hit the special cases.

This is exactly one of the reasons a bunch of folk ( aka, purests maybe ) don't 
like that map/filter etc. in Clojure convert the input collection into seqs, 
unlike Haskell or others where the those monad laws keep you in check that 
map/filter return the _same_ container - so mapping a `set` would yield another 
`set` - also with no guaranteed order, and also with uniqueness applied - so 
technically a map over a set may yield a collection of an equal or smaller 
size, but never greater.

This seems to fuel a lot of debate when entered into - so I guess I'm asking 
for trouble in replies here :)

Mark

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