Having tried few other ways earlier, I now prefer the `first` approach you 
described. Protocols decouple the contract and the implementation very 
well, and can be reified for various profiles (unit tests, scenario tests, 
integration etc.) For constructing the graph I have found Prismatic graph 
with reifying-functions to be very apt -- you may still need to borrow the 
lifecycle idea from Stuart Sierra's component (maybe define IStoppable) for 
things that need shutdown, such as custom thread-pools.

Shantanu

On Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:52:28 UTC+5:30, Colin Yates wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I ran into a bit of a brick wall when thinking about how to register to 
> and dispatch to multiple micro-services and it made me realise the 
> underlying tension came from not having peace about a fundamental design 
> decision; how do you access your collaborators. Note: I am specifically 
> talking about 'providers of functionality' as oppose to state. I think 
> everybody agrees that passing state around is a "good thing" (e.g. *db* is 
> so 90s, (defn my-thing-which-needs-a-db [db] ...) is where it is at).
>
> One option is to receive instances of a service (probably some 
> implementation of a defprotocol):
>
> (den my-service [service-1 service-2 payload]
>  (some-method service-1)
>  (some-method service-2))
>
> The other is to directly reach into the collaborator's namespace:
>
> (den my-service [payload]
>  (service-1-ns/some-function)
>  (service-2-ns/some-function))
>
> (maybe some config is passed into my-service which the other services use.
>
> The first approach has a much smaller coupling and makes it much easier to 
> reason about. If there is coupling then it is on the protocol of the 
> collaborator. It is therefore trivial to unit-test as you can stub out the 
> collaborators without redef. It also has echoes of OO services, which might 
> be just fine.
>
> The second approach means you don't end up passing collaborators deep down 
> hierarchy graphs (which I haven't run into actually - Clojure tends to have 
> a much 'flatter' graph then Java). It does mean testing etc. requires 
> redefs.
>
> My inclination is to go for the first as it seems simpler, but I still 
> have an allergic reaction to using protocols like this (because of the OO 
> trap). 
>
> This clearly isn't new ground, but I could find surprisingly little blogs 
> and discussion about this. It is also something that only really becomes a 
> problem in the larger scale as well.
>
> What do you all do?
>

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