But wouldn't those async interaces either use their own threads or 
threadpool, which would compete with core.async's threadpool for 
resources/cycles?

kl. 23:31:53 UTC+1 mandag 5. januar 2015 skrev tbc++ følgende:
>
> Many database APIs already contain async interfaces. Simply use those and 
> use core.async/put! and take! to allow them to operate on core.async 
> channels. You often don't need much more than that. 
>
> Timothy
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Robin Heggelund Hansen <skinn...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I guess this post is mostly going to be a question, but one that could 
>> shape up to be a long open source project and contribution on my part, if 
>> it is warranted.
>>
>> The Clojure community has been blessed with good language 
>> interoperability with Java, which has made it easy to use and wrap 
>> Java-libraries, which again I suspect is why Clojure is where it is today, 
>> a tool for professional development.
>>
>> This has also, to some extent, been a curse, as we've relied on libraries 
>> made for a different language, instead of "creating the world in our 
>> image", so to speak. I assume this is why core.async isn't as integrated in 
>> the Clojure ecosystem as I would like, because we already have libraries 
>> that works, and taking the time to make sure they scale well simply isn't 
>> worth it.
>>
>> So I thought I would re-invent the wheel a little, but it depends on my 
>> premise being correct.
>>
>> From what I understand, core.async basically creates state machines, that 
>> are run on a threadpool. Once you do something that blocks (like IO), you 
>> are kinda ruining the idea behind core.async, which is efficient 
>> concurrency at a large scale. I also assume, that having more than one 
>> threadpool, isn't really what you want. You want core.async to have the 
>> only threadpool running, and you want to run most things as go-blocks.
>>
>> Today, way to many things block, like reading a file or reading from a 
>> database. Things that are async, mostly uses it's own threadpool. If I got 
>> this correctly, a standard web-app today will usually perform a blocking 
>> action for most DB-ops, requests will run in a http-server-specific 
>> threadpool, while agents or go-blocks has their own threadpool again.
>>
>> Would I be correct that a clojure web-server, would be more efficient (at 
>> scale) if DB-ops and general request handling, ran entirely as go-blocks on 
>> the core.async threadpool alone?
>>
>> I was thinking of creating a async.io library (core.async + NIO for file 
>> and socket ops), and after that perhaps create a socket-pool library before 
>> creating a core.async friendly SQL interface. Is there a point to this, or 
>> would I just be doing a lot of work for very little gain?
>>
>> Thanks!
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