Because it's Node-JS environment, and that can be the same for any async
Javascript, you never wanna call sync operations (like sync ajax) because
they block everything...

I was noticing that is a non-issue at all in Java world, since you can
always read blocking into the predicate, for example: (filter (comp <!!
my-chan-pred))

But in Javascript that's not possible since it can't support read blocking.

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On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Leon Grapenthin <grapenthinl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Why would you want the the predicates and readdir to return channels?
>
> On Monday, September 22, 2014 12:14:27 AM UTC+2, Wilker wrote:
>>
>> Just an add,
>>
>> I was thinking if we could have something like a "deref" running during
>> the transducers, in order to enable value unwrapping (that way we could
>> handle channels/values in same fashion). I understand that is complicated
>> maybe because overhead, and also more tricky into JS world were you can't
>> deref a channel into a sync fashion.
>>
>> But the point remains, there is way to seamlessly handle async and sync
>> operations using the same transducers? Or something like it.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
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>> http://about.me/wilkerlucio/bio
>> Woboinc Consultant
>> +55 81 82556600
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Wilker <wilke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I'm playing with transducers here, and trying out stuff just for fun,
>>> there is something that I'm kind stuck on how to approach. I understand the
>>> great abstraction that transducers provide over don't carrying about the
>>> input source type, but I'm struggling to deal with async operations into my
>>> pipeline.
>>>
>>> For example, I'm working with Node.JS async API's for file system
>>> operations, I want to stick with the async versions since I don't wanna
>>> block the event loop of Node.
>>>
>>> So, let's say I have a source with ["dir", "other"] and I wanna create
>>> an operation that will simple filter which paths exists, are directories,
>>> and then list the `ls` of each remaining entry.
>>>
>>> So, I first created "channel returning" functions for the Node
>>> operations, I'll not put the code here because I don't think it's really
>>> relevant here, just consider that I have them.
>>>
>>> So, my pipeline would start looking something like this:
>>>
>>> (comp (filter exists?)
>>>       (filter is-dir?)
>>>       (mapcat readdir))
>>>
>>> Of course, this doesn't works... Because `exists?`, `is-dir?` and
>>> `readdir`, all of them return channels, so the filter would always pass
>>> since a channel is always a valid value... The same applies to mapcat, it
>>> would try to concat into a channel...
>>>
>>> This is making me notice some barrier to be able to compose async
>>> operations with regular operations.
>>>
>>> Maybe would be possible to "sign" somehow operations to make then run
>>> async?
>>>
>>> The only viable option that I've found is with pipeline-async, which
>>> accepts an async function, but that doesn't composes with the other
>>> operations (map, filter, drop-while...)
>>>
>>> Is there already a solution to that? Or maybe I'm just doing it wrong
>>> and there is a better way to handle those cases?
>>>
>>> I would love to know how you guys are handling those kind of situations.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> http://about.me/wilkerlucio/bio
>>> Woboinc Consultant
>>> +55 81 82556600
>>>
>>
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