Relevant? Well it is always nice to find different articles that are
bashing on the issues that could appear from badly designed OO programs if
you want to get Clojure into consideration in your organization.

I don't support that OO is bad. It is just complicate to constrain yourself
from making it overcomplicated because after all they teach us that it
should be representation of the real world and sometimes the world is scary
and crazy place...





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On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Softaddicts <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca>
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> I think this article is partly true, at least in the OO world we know
> today.
>
> I dealt with a number of OO based commercial softwares in the past 10 years
> that used abstractions that were at best annoying, at worse made the
> internals
> obscure up to a point where you wondered if these were added only to insure
> some job security to the "experienced" anarchitects that created them.
>
> Their implementations did not do anything to make things clearer either.
>
> Frameworks are also part of the problem. They tend to inflate up to a
> point were there initial intent is not even obvious these days.
> Remember why Spring came to life ? Look at it today... it tries to be
> everything.
>
> These days I stay away from frameworks and I my work life is far more
> simple.
>
> My personal rule is that if you create or use abstractions not related to
> your business model, you should question yourself seriously if you need
> them.
>
> The "bottom stuff", Clojure current abstractions coupled with a few others,
> message queues, configuration management, ... is a toolbox allowing you to
> grab the moon. It's more than enough to do a lot of milleage.
>
> Luc P.
>
>
>
> > Looks like a pretty standard rather naif article by someone who knows
> > enough to be dangerous but not enough to actually understand about
> > trade-offs.
> >
> > And I'm not sure why you think it's even slightly relevant to Clojure: or
> > did you think Clojure eschewed abstractions?
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