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On Monday, August 11, 2014 3:32:21 PM UTC-7, MS wrote:
>
> Actually there are several things going on.
> In general the database I'm trying to define would include not only the 
> actual net list (ie a mapping between nets and pins), but also all the PCB 
> junk that goes on. 
>
> The cyclic graph requires some type of mutability...
>

 I was addressing the serialization of a cyclic structure more than the 
mutability of cyclic structures. Those are two independent issues.
 

> ...if I want to find the net that belongs to a node and also find the 
> nodes that belong to a net, but I may have come up with something that 
> works without mutability, which  I described a while ago here: 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4580865/how-can-one-create-cyclic-and-immutable-data-structures-in-clojure-without-ext/10242730#10242730
>  
>  .  I haven't done much with that since I wrote it, so I'm not sure it'll 
> work well.
>

Sure, a cyclic graph can be "connected" symbolically using any number of 
immutable structures of such symbols. The selection of a structure could 
depend on the required functionality, e.g. if your PCBs might consist of 
millions of pins, if you want to run discrete simulations, etc.

(Having said that, I'm not a fan of immutability for immutability's sake, 
but this is the Clojure list, and you seem determined, so, I'll assume 
there's a good reason and let it go at that.)

So far I'm overwhelmed at trying to think about how to capture all the 
> features I've thought of.  I guess I just need to start small.
>

There's something to be said for that.
 

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