you probably want to use set! for that instead of alter-var-root.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com>wrote: > Ah, so in my case, I run that snippet when I want *other* threads to write > to stdout/stderr buffers instead of showing up in the terminal. In your > case, you could rebind vim's *err* to its *out*, since you say anything > sent to *err* doesn't show up (unless it's not seeing vim's binding), but > *out* shows up fine. > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Brian Craft <craft.br...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:10:06 PM UTC-7, Gary Trakhman wrote: >>> >>> I use this trick pretty much all the time. >>> >>> (alter-var-root #'*out* (constantly *out*)), same for *err*, though I'll >>> wire *err* to *out* >>> >>> >> Wow, I have no clue what that does. When do you run this? When would >> *out* not be the value in #'*out*? You've closed over *out* in some >> context, and the alter-var-root is running in some different context, where >> *out* has been reassigned? >> >> >> >>> (future (println "blah3")) works because *out* is conveyed to the future >>> via binding-conveyor-function. >>> >>> That's not the case in the first. >>> >>> >> To be clear, it's the future case that is problematic. It writes (I >> think) to some vim channel and is lost forever. The Thread case works. It >> writes to the repl terminal, where I can see it. >> >> So, future invokes the binding conveyor, which sets *err* to the vim >> channel. Where does Thread get its *err*? >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Brian Craft <craft...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> A small clue, gleaned from a cider issue: >>>> >>>> This outputs to the repl terminal. >>>> >>>> (future (.start (Thread. #(println "blah2")))) >>>> >>>> This output is captured by vim. >>>> >>>> (future (println "blah3")) >>>> >>>> Still no idea what's going on. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:09:31 PM UTC-7, Brian Craft wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Still not able to track down stderr. Anyone know how this stuff works? >>>>> >>>>> Dumping *err* from a ring handler, running from jetty, I get >>>>> this: java.io.PrintWriter@1d9e436a. This will write to the repl >>>>> terminal, so long as I flush (wtf... stderr is buffered?). >>>>> >>>>> If I dump *err* from a future, I get this: java.io.PrintWriter@fa4b83c. >>>>> This is the same value I get if I eval (str *err*) in fireplace. Writing >>>>> to >>>>> this PrintWriter doesn't output anywhere that I can find. I'm guessing >>>>> this >>>>> is the channel used by fireplace to capture output and return it to vim. >>>>> >>>>> So, something is different in how *err* is set up, between the jetty >>>>> adaptor and a future? >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>> your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.