Great to hear, I'm looking forward to progress :) 4. apr. 2014 kl. 14:45 skrev Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com>:
> I agree that we cannot (yet) cut support for Java 6 but we continue to watch > polls and usage closely. Java 6 has been EOL'ed for a while now and usage > continues to drop. However, there are a few minor JDK-specific bits already > in Clojure and it would be entirely possible to handle separate paths for 6 > and 7. > > The major concern is with the stability and *predictability* of > invokedynamic. indy has undergone major revisions between Java 7 and 8 so it > may be that what needs to be done is substantially different between the two. > My impression from watching the work of people like Charles Nutter is that it > requires a lot of flag tweaking to make it work reliably. It also seems that > when you go off the fast path, you can go over a cliff with performance. > **These are my impressions - they could be wrong.** For these reasons, it has > not been high on the priority list, but having more work or data on this > would be great. I am not speaking for Rich here, but my guess is that this is > compatible with his thoughts. > > One of my first efforts for 1.7 is going to be working out how to support > multiple Clojure builds for different purposes (such as lean runtime, > Android, whatever) - this is foundational work that can open up the > possibility of specialized Clojure builds, such as an invokedynamic-aware > version. > > Alex > > On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:09:16 AM UTC-5, Plinio Balduino wrote: > The guys from core team will correct me if I say any bs, but I think it's not > possible to keep Clojure compatible with Java 6, as Clojure 1.6 is, and use > InvokeDynamic bytecode in the same binary. DynJS, for example, is not > compatible with Java 6. > > Anyway, it would be nice to see any experiment with that bytecode and > Clojure, maybe evolving to some form of Clojure 2.0. > > It would be nice to hear the core team and/or Hickey's position about it. > > Regards > > Plinio Balduino > > On 04/04/2014, at 06:44, Robin Heggelund Hansen <skinn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yeah, those were the blog posts I've read, but I can't see that this is >> actually being worked on for Clojure? >> >> 4. apr. 2014 kl. 11:43 skrev Plínio Balduino <pbal...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi, Hansen >>> >>> Fogus (from here) and Nutter (from JRuby) wrote nice posts about it. >>> >>> http://blog.fogus.me/2011/10/14/why-clojure-doesnt-need-invokedynamic-but-it-might-be-nice/ >>> >>> http://blog.headius.com/2011/10/why-clojure-doesnt-need-invokedynamic.html?m=1 >>> >>> Plinio Balduino >>> 11 982 611 487 >>> >>> On 04/04/2014, at 05:42, Robin Heggelund Hansen <skinn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Did someone ever look at supporting InvokeDynamic for Clojure? I've read a >>>> couple of blogs and it seemed interesting, would be cool to know if there >>>> actually were any advantages in practice. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>> your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Clojure" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/vNXIfkgRRkI/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your >> first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/vNXIfkgRRkI/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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