Also, you can use straight up java as well inside of loops.  I, sometimes, 
will write a static method, dump the clojure data strcuture over to java, 
mutate like a crazy man, then slap it back into clojure.  I find that loop 
recur are not as elegant as imperative styles of looping(an opinion of 
course).  I think of recursion as a low level operation, it is a outlier in 
clojure where most of the time we swim in an abstraction bliss.  Anyway, I 
find using pattern matching in conjunction with recursion makes it far more 
elegant... https://github.com/clojure/core.match

On Friday, March 21, 2014 7:48:24 AM UTC-4, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> Excellent point... thanks for the insight
>
> On Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:34:47 UTC, tbc++ wrote:
>>
>> Not to mention that this isn't local mutation. You are handing the atom 
>> to a closure that then gets wrapped by lazy-seq and returned. So the atom 
>> may actually sit around for some time.
>>  
>

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