I would say that with good reducers, the reduce approach can eliminate seq
creation and thus be at least a bit faster and less demanding for GC.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Michał Marczyk <michal.marc...@gmail.com>wrote:

> str is much faster with apply than with reduce; in fact, with reduce
> it is O(n^2), whereas with apply it is O(n). (The constants are better
> with apply too.)
>
> In general, (apply foo ...) takes advantage of any optimizations the
> author of foo might be aware of for speeding up its operation when
> given multiple arguments. (reduce foo ...) is always a simple-minded
> fold. Not that that's never useful; it is with reducers and with
> anonymous functions.
>
>
> On 12 February 2014 21:06, Vincent <vhenneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:47:07 PM UTC, Stuart Sierra wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:46:41 AM UTC-5, Vincent wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On a slightly different topic: why reduce and not apply?
> >>
> >>
> >> The implementation of `+` with more than 2 arguments uses `reduce`
> >> internally. So they amount to the same thing.
> >
> >
> > Ah ok, interesting. I do seem to have, in the past, come across a
> function
> > that was significantly faster when used with apply rather than reduce,
> but I
> > can't remember which one.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> There isn't really a performance difference:
> >>
> >> user=> (dotimes [i 7] (time (reduce + (range 10000000))))
> >> "Elapsed time: 354.475 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 346.235 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 348.124 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 348.894 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 379.9 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 356.337 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 362.788 msecs"
> >> nil
> >> user=> (dotimes [i 7] (time (apply + (range 10000000))))
> >> "Elapsed time: 360.067 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 353.281 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 345.694 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 355.162 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 346.511 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 350.61 msecs"
> >> "Elapsed time: 353.674 msecs"
> >> nil
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Vincent
> >
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