I didn't say "a virus". I pointed out that it appeared to be triggered by viewing a particular message in this thread. It may be that there's some gimmick text you can embed in a mail that screws up gmail -- there's certainly precedent, anyone on a dialup connection will get their line dropped when they load this message because it contains "+++ATH0". In any case, what the incident most resembled to me was a prank of a similar sort to that old classic from the BBS days and any of numerous commonplace college dorm pranks; in which case the place to address it is right here where the person who perpetrated the inappropriate prank can explain that that's what it was (if that *is* what it was) and apologize, and/or the group's moderators can take any appropriate action against the perpetrator. (I'd be happy with their receiving a warning, *if* this was a first offense.)
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Timothy Baldridge <tbaldri...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Which part didn't you understand? > > The part where you think that this is the appropriate channel for > discussing general IT problems you are having with your computer > > > I don't know if it was something in "t x"'s message that triggered it > > Well you accused him of that pretty much right off the bat... > > > In any event, if anyone can shed any light on this incident I'd > appreciate information. > > Sure, it can be a number of things. a) a bug in your mouse driver. b) a > failing mouse battery. c) dirt on/in the mouse d) a bug in your browser e) > a virus on your computer. f) a bug in gmail. > > All of these are much, much more likely than what > you originally suggested. The idea that someone posting to a google group > can get a virus through a text email, and that that virus somehow affected > your browser, is just laughable. > > Timothy > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Cedric Greevey <cgree...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Which part didn't you understand? When I scrolled down to "t x"'s >> message, after a short delay *something* wrested control of Firefox away >> from me and issued a sequence of navigation commands the effect of which >> was to log me out of gmail, much as if I'd clicked the little down arrow by >> my username and then clicked "signout". >> >> I don't know if it was something in "t x"'s message that triggered it (if >> so, it didn't have the same effect when I viewed it again after logging >> back in), but I do know that I do not appreciate having my computer >> hijacked. I'm sure you can understand how it's rather alarming to have your >> stuff just suddenly start acting on "its own initiative", right in front of >> your eyes, when the damned thing isn't supposed to *have* its own >> initiative. >> >> In any event, if anyone can shed any light on this incident I'd >> appreciate information. (For example: does an expert on browser security >> see anything in "t x"'s post, or any other in this thread, that could have >> triggered anything unusual in susceptible versions of Firefox? Should I >> wipe and reinstall this machine on the presumption that the seemingly >> superficial hijack left it infected with a nasty rootkit of some sort, or >> was it just a prank, or even a known software bug somewhere?) >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Timothy Baldridge >> <tbaldri...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Um........wat? >>> On Jan 23, 2014 7:17 PM, "Cedric Greevey" <cgree...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> [meta, but about something apparently triggered by the message, from >>>> this thread, that I'm quoting] >>>> >>>> Why did reading this post cause gmail to go bonkers? I saw this thread >>>> had new articles since earlier today, brought it up, and read the previous >>>> message, then just after I'd scrolled down to this one, leaned back, and >>>> started reading it the browser just suddenly began spinning on its own and >>>> navigated by itself. Apparently about 10 seconds after I sat back >>>> *something* input a click on the little down-triangle in the upper right >>>> corner of the page and then clicked "sign out" because it went to the gmail >>>> login page. And a second or so before that the chat thingy at the left >>>> crashed as a popup there distracted me by appearing suddenly and saying >>>> something like "Oops, problem connecting to chat". >>>> >>>> I don't like having my stuff suddenly go spinning out of control like >>>> that. I wasn't touching the keyboard or the mouse at the time. The browser >>>> should not have done anything but sit there patiently displaying this page >>>> until *I* *CHOSE* to navigate away from it. If there is something in your >>>> message that hijacks the browsers of people reading it, then I would like >>>> you to know that I consider such a thing to be extremely poor etiquette and >>>> in extremely poor taste. Do not do it again. If it was not that particular >>>> message then I'd like to know what *did* reach into *MY* computer and start >>>> issuing instructions on *MY* behalf *without* *MY* permission, and how to >>>> stop that from ever happening again. This is *MY* copy of Firefox and it >>>> goes where *I* say it does, when *I* say it does it, and not a moment >>>> sooner. Is that absofrickinglutely clear? That is non-negotiable. Anyone >>>> who willfully violates this edict *will* be added to my spam filter and I >>>> will not see any future post by that author. Is *that* clear? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM, t x <txrev...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> * This is the time I've heard "the one who's feeding the channel is >>>>> the one in charge of closing it" -- previously, my channel code was fairly >>>>> ad-hoc and agressive (since I need to kill many (go-loop [msg (<! ... )] >>>>> (when msg ...)) blocks). >>>>> >>>>> * I still feel this breaks the "conveyor belt" metaphor -- when a >>>>> conveyor belt shuts down, it's understandable that we after we take what's >>>>> on the belt, in future takes, we get nothing. >>>>> >>>>> However, when putting items on a stopped conveyor belt, messages >>>>> should not just *poof* vanish into the void. :-) >>>>> >>>>> * This existing semantics makes debugging annoying (perhaps this is >>>>> due to my lack of skill). When something should be happening, and nothing >>>>> is happening, I'm basically going around hunting for "where did I do a put >>>>> on a closed channel", whereas if it threw an exception of some form, it'd >>>>> be easier to handle then this "silent fail." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:50 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer (kotarak) < >>>>> m...@kotka.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> probably the idea is, that the one who's feeding the channel is the >>>>>> one in charge of closing it. After all, they know when there is no more >>>>>> input available. Do you have a use case where this problem manifests? 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