I'll address the java.jdbc.sql question in a separate thread (I've
actually addressed it before so I'll search the archives and elaborate
on my previous responses). Give me an hour or so...

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Alexander Hudek
<a...@diligenceengine.com> wrote:
> Sean, for what it's worth many of us do appreciate the slow and careful
> development of java.jdbc. When it's used so widely in production code
> frequent breaking changes are very costly. The new 0.3.0 API is pretty nice,
> though I have found documentation for it somewhat lacking. That said, I
> haven't found time to contribute to it either.
>
> Perhaps this thread isn't the right place, but I am curious about the
> rational and plans for the sql namespace. Is this going to be fleshed out to
> be more fully featured over time? Why choose to integrate it rather than
> have it as a separate add-on?
>
> Thanks for the work on jdbc. :-)
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:28:16 PM UTC-5, Sean Corfield wrote:
>>
>> To Michael: It is fairly up to date - there have only been a few small
>> changes to java.jdbc since the last updates to that part of
>> clojure-doc.org. Now that java.jdbc 0.3.0 has hit beta and has a
>> stable API for release, I feel more comfortable about updating the
>> clojure-doc.org pages to include the handful of changes that are
>> missing. It has been expanded quite a bit from the original version
>> that was part of the clojure.java.jdbc repo.
>>
>> I'm a little disappointed that after moving it to clojure-doc.org
>> specifically to remove the CA barrier to entry, none of java.jdbc's
>> users have taken the time to provide updates to the documentation
>> site. The whole point of moving it to clojure-doc.org was to enable
>> community contribution.
>>
>> To Andrey: I'm a bit disappointed you didn't offer to contribute to
>> java.jdbc's documentation since you found it lacking, and that you
>> didn't raise your concerns about either the documentation or the API
>> with me, rather than creating your own library based on the old API.
>> Open source projects improve through collaboration.
>>
>> That said, there's always room for more libraries and alternative
>> approaches. I'll be a lot happier with java.jdbc when I'm able to
>> strip the old API out after it has been deprecated for a few releases
>> - and I'll point out that the API changes from 0.2.x to 0.3.0 are
>> primarily in response to feedback from Clojure/core. java.jdbc is in
>> fairly heavy production use these days so I'm having to be more
>> conservative about changing it than I would if it were just "my"
>> project and not a Clojure contrib library :)
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Michael Klishin
>> <michael....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > 2013/11/16 Andrey Antukh <ni...@niwi.be>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Lack of documentation.
>> >
>> >
>> > FTR, there is some documentation for java.jdbc, but it certainly
>> > isn't being actively worked on (despite not being covered by the CA) and
>> > may
>> > already be out of date.
>> >
>> > http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/java_jdbc/home.html
>> >
>> > If you'd like to contribute:
>> > http://github.com/clojuredocs/guides
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>> >
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>> > http://twitter.com/michaelklishin
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