Thanks, Jerrod.  Great way to frame the question!

On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jarrod Swart <jcsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the more interesting question is: do web developers need Clojure?  If 
> performance were the sole concern then everyone would still code web apps in 
> C or assembler.  There is great power in abstraction.  I like this talk by 
> Uncle Bob: http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-language  
> If you don't have time to watch it I will summarize: every time we get a more 
> powerful programming environment (for developers) we reduce our programming 
> options (in the language).  
> C     --> Java     == no pointers
> Java --> Clojure == no immutability, etc.
> Every major advancement for developers has largely involved reducing our 
> options and choices.  Take away register manipulation, take away pointers, 
> take away variables, and so on.  I highly recommend the talk by Uncle Bob.
> 
> So I highly encourage you to investigate the benefits that Clojure provide to 
> the developer, over the benefits provided to the machine.
> 
> Good luck in your search!
> 
> Jarrod
> 
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:38:49 PM UTC-5, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> We’re a Python / Django shop, and some folks are getting excited about using 
> Clojure for building web apps.  Certainly there are numerous open-source 
> options to assist us (Pedastal, Ring, Compojure, Caribou, etc), but I think 
> it begs a larger question: as a rule, do web applications need the power that 
> Clojure brings to the table?
> 
> Other folks on my team are telling me that solutions built with Python / 
> Django (or even RubyOnRails) fully satisfy the needs of 99% of the web apps 
> we have built, and that Clojure offers nothing new to this problem space.  
> 
> So, here’s the question: How are you are actually using Clojure, and why did 
> you choose to use it, particularly in the “web application” space?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> marcus blankenship
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