Forgot to mention, Zweikopf comes as a Ruby gem and as a Clojure library.
You should make a decision though wether you're running Ruby scripting
container from Clojure or start Clojure runtime from Ruby...


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Oleksandr Petrov <oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> I've been working with an application that written in Ruby and Clojure.
> Nothing forbids you from using some messaging system for communication
> between Ruby and Clj, although we required direct access to Ruby from
> Clojure and vice versa.
>
> That's pretty much how Zweikopf was born:
> http://github.com/ifesdjeen/zweikopf
>
> With Zweikopf you can call Ruby code from Clojure and Clojure code from
> Ruby, given that Runtime was registered properly. You can convert any
> Clojure data structure to Ruby one
> and back, custom serialisation, circular dependency detection included.
>
> I would suggest not using any serialisation means if you intend running
> both languages in a single process / JVM. That would add a significant
> overhead and you won't be able to have
> direct access to whatever class you may need at given time without
> wrapping it into some RPC container.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:47 PM, rdelcueto <rdelcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ron,
>> Thanks for your response. Digging deeper into my question...
>>
>> When I read about the Torquebox Immutant duet, I thought it was
>> particularly interesting solution, because it was fairly easy to deploy and
>> both processes would live inside a JVM environment. I was impressed by how
>> Clojure data structures mapped to Ruby structures and vice-versa, it seemed
>> to provide a very clean and idiomatic messaging platform. Plus it would
>> provide tools for caching, clustering, and what not. Still I wasn't very
>> keen on the JRuby subject, since It's known to have compatibility issues
>> with certain gems.
>>
>> Yesterday while researching on the subject I found about ZeroMQ. Do you
>> have any particular reason to use RabbitMQ over other messaging libraries?
>> Are there any caveats to your interop model?
>> How portable is deploying a site using a messaging solution such as
>> RabbitMQ?
>>
>> I also found out about Google's Protocol Buffers, they seemed like a
>> lightweight solution to pass language agnostic data structures through the
>> messaging infrastructure.
>> Do messages need to be encapsulated somehow, or is this actually
>> unnecessary? How it's done in your case?
>>
>> Regarding security and sensible information interop; Should messages be
>> encrypted? Should they be encrypted as a whole message or partially (only
>> sensible data)?
>> What are the performance implications of this pipeline? Is the overhead
>> and footprint of such setup (Ruby + Messaging Broker + ClojureJVM) big
>> enough, for it to be worth thinking on writing everything in Clojure (using
>> the Luminus framework)?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 9, 2013 8:10:41 AM UTC-5, Ron Toland wrote:
>>>
>>> At Rewryte, we use Rails for the web frontend and Clojure for the data
>>> processing backend for exactly the reasons you described.
>>>
>>> We use RabbitMQ to communicate between the two. This maintains
>>> separation between the two apps (no JRuby required), and lets us scale them
>>> both independently, while taking advantage of each language/framework's
>>> strengths.
>>>
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