Maybe this is a dumb idea, but could you have a macro that rewrites code to
use your ops?

  (require '[clojure.core.matrix :as m])
  (m/with-ops (+ ... (* ...) ...))

and then all the "special" symbols get rewritten/qualified with
clojure.core.matrix?

Dave



On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> You only get the warning if you 'use' the namespace or 'refer all'
> tho', correct?
>
> And we've recently seen a lot of discussion that basically says "don't
> do that" so it seems that either users of core.matric are going to
> have two "approved" choices:
> * require core.matrix with an alias, or choose to rename colliding
> names however you want
> * exclude the colliding symbols via refer-clojure and require them
> from core.matrix as referred symbols
>
> That's seems right to me: it is explicit and provides no surprises; it
> gives the user control over how to manage things.
>
> Sean
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mikera <mike.r.anderson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > While building the API for core.matrix, I've fun into a few cases where
> the
> > "best" name is a direct clash with clojure.core.
> >
> > Examples are "+", "zero?", "vector?", "=="
> >
> > In many of these cases, the core.matrix behaviour is a natural extension
> of
> > the clojure.core function (i.e. it extends the same functionality to
> > arbitrary N-dimensional arrays).
> >
> > I'm not very happy with any of the options I can see for handling this:
> >
> > A) Use the good names in the "clojure.core.matrix" namespace. Problem:
> that
> > gives you a ton of nasty warnings of the type "WARNING: + already refers
> to:
> > #'clojure.core/+ in namespace: test.blank, being replaced by:
> > #'clojure.core.matrix/+". Significant boilerplate must be maintained by
> the
> > user in their ns declaration to prevent these warnings. I don't like
> forcing
> > users to maintain boilerplate, and I think that normal idiomatic usage
> > should be warning-free.
> >
> > B) Separate the name-clashing functions into separate namespaces - e.g.
> > "clojure.core.matrix.operators". Problem: that's something of an
> artificial
> > division, and again it forces users to do extra ns-management work to
> access
> > the functions they want.
> >
> > C) Use different names. Problem: names would be worse, and this would be
> > inconsistent and confusing, especially for functions that do effectively
> the
> > same thing.
> >
> > D) Encourage users to use aliases. Problem: that's horrendously ugly and
> > inconvenient for numerical code. Users with any sense of elegance in
> their
> > coding style would quite rightly throw their hands up in disgust.
> >
> > Currently we're doing B), I'd prefer to do A) but can't figure out a way
> to
> > automatically suppress the warnings.
> >
> > Any better ideas?
> >
> >
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