I guess you're right. There should be a way to import many java classes
just as importing an entire clojure namespace.

We could also have exactly the same syntax for clojure namespaces as java
classes. So instead of

[org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver ArtifactResolver]

we would have

[org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver :refer [ArtifactResolver]]

or

[org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver :refer :all]

Which would be equivalent to a wildcard.

I'm not sure myself which is best. It might be a good idea to separate java
importing and ns importing.

Jonathan

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Mark Engelberg <mark.engelb...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think it's java that is at fault here. I think wildcards should never
>> have been part of java to begin with. The argument here is basically
>> exactly the same as why :use shouldn't be used, so I wont explain it
>> further.
>
>
> Well, Clojure is hosted on Java and clean interop is one of its goals.
>
> The fact of the matter is that many Java libraries are designed and
> documented with the existence of the wildcard in mind.  The code is
> fragmented across many small classes that are designed to be imported en
> masse with a wildcard.  The documentation often does not even provide any
> details about which specific classes are located where, it simply shows to
> use the wildcard to get them all.
>
> Whether this is Java's "fault", the fact that Clojure does not embrace
> this idiom has concretely hurt my ability to use Java code.
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