One option for people looking for an alternative VM is Avian (previous thread here<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/U4i4nVsYfi8/discussion>), which runs Clojure and supports native continuations and TCO. The maintainer, Joel Dice, is an all around great guy and does a fantastic job on the project. You can use it with a stripped-down class library that ships with Avian (although I don't think that has all the classes required for Clojure), with the Android class library (no idea if that works with Clojure or not) or with the OpenJDK class library.
On 30 July 2013 02:03, Niklas Therning <nik...@therning.org> wrote: > Never I'm afraid. This is by design. RoboVM targets iOS which doesn't > allow executable memory which means JITing is impossible. So for speed > RoboVM compiles Java bytecode AOT to machine code. We could have mixed AOT > compiled code with interpreted but that would have complicated things > considerably. > > On Monday, July 29, 2013 10:44:47 AM UTC+2, Cedric Greevey wrote: > >> That would only allow AOT-compiled Clojure to be used -- no dynamic >> stuff, no REPL, no development directly on that VM, and no code that uses >> eval. >> >> That's something of a problem. >> >> Any timeline on when the VM will have fully mature JVM classloader >> capabilities? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Niklas Therning <nik...@therning.org>wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm the founder of the RoboVM project. RoboVM supports reflection but >>> not custom classloaders and not runtime bytecode manipulation. If clojure >>> can be compiled ahead of time to bytecode .class files than there's a >>> possibility that it could work on RoboVM and iOS. Just let me know what you >>> need to know. >>> >>> /Niklas >>> >>> >>> On Monday, July 22, 2013 3:59:34 PM UTC+2, Gary Trakhman wrote: >>> >>>> Seems like it would need reflection and classloaders for loading ASM >>>> bytecode, and the run-time would thus need its compiler, I can't tell from >>>> the site whether that's the case. If there's no reflection, then it would >>>> be a pain to make clojure work. >>>> >>>> But, I see it says: 'The standard classes (java.lang.*, java.util.*, >>>> etc) included in RoboVM are based on Android's runtime.' >>>> >>>> Need more details about how it actually runs java bytecode and its >>>> architecture. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Jacob Goodson >>>> <submissio...@gmx.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wanted to see if people know/knew about this. 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