It's true that many of these systems are equivalently powerful and
redundant, but the dominant forces driving them are social, not technical.

Fred Brooks's 'The Mythical Man-Month' is the classic book on this topic.

In an ideal world, where information flowed freely and instantly, all these
mentioned technologies would not exist.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Alexander Gunnarson <
alexandergunnar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This idea's been on my mind lately: could Clojure be used as a unifying
> force for all those disparate file formats and frameworks like:
> - XML / XLink / XPointer / XQuery,
> - JSON,
> - HTML / XHTML,
> - CSS,
> - JavaScript / jQuery,
> - Flash (SVG/ActionScript),
> - SQL,
> - and (of course) Java?
>
> As a disclaimer, I'm no expert on all of these things I'm listing. But my
> thoughts go like this.
> - XML and JSON are roughly equivalent.
>   - HTML, XHTML, and SVG are subsets of XML.
>   - *These "data storage" filetypes are equivalent to Clojure data
> structures like vectors, symbols, keywords, lists, maps, etc. and could
> theoretically be reduced to Clojure S-expressions.*
> - Java, JavaScript, and ActionScript all play roughly the same role.
>   - Some aspects of their libraries overlap with XML navigation and
> manipulation functions (XLink / XPointer / XQuery).
>   - *Clojure covers what these languages aim for. It has direct access to
> Java libraries and the Clojure to JavaScript compiler has already been
> written, so further interop with ActionScript/Flash shouldn't be too
> terribly difficult (there's already a port on GitHub 
> here<https://github.com/aemoncannon/las3r/wiki>
> ).*
> - *SQL is a subset of Clojure. It just uses operations on the equivalent
> of Clojure data structures.*
> *- *Probably other languages can be included in this set of which Clojure
> is a superset.
>
> As it gains more popularity and notoriety, Clojure could be used
> side-by-side with and eventually in place of all of the above filetypes and
> frameworks I mentioned (and more). Say goodbye to 15 different Web
> technologies and hello to one, much better, more powerful one that envelops
> all of them.
>
> Of course, I think my parade is going to get rained on. Clojure runs on
> the JVM and we've already said goodbye to Java applets long ago. So maybe a
> workaround would be to compile Clojure to a hundred little
> XML/HTML/CSS/SQL/JavaScript files, but to really only code in Clojure.
>
> But not having to compile it would be nice. Think about it: with Clojure
> macros, you can have self-optimizing code, which would make for a
> self-optimizing web. Clojure running on the JVM would mean fairly easy
> concurrency, which would speed up video streaming/processing and (Clojure
> ported) Flash media significantly, especially as Moore's Law kicks in with
> multicore processors.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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