+1 totally agree. Eg. clojure.core/with-open

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On 1 Jul 2013 20:58, "Gary Trakhman" <gary.trakh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whenever I make a macro like this, I pass the symbol to be captured as an
> argument to the macro.  Any collisions would be more explicit and less
> surprising.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Baishampayan Ghose <b.gh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What you need is called an anaphoric macro (via symbol capture).
>> Clojure makes it hard to do a symbol capture in macros since it
>> qualifies all symbols automatically unless you use the auto gensym
>> feature. This is done for hygiene purposes and to avoid any unintended
>> side-effects.
>>
>> However indeed, it's possible to create such a macro in Clojure.
>>
>> Behold -
>>
>> (defmacro test-it [addend & body] `(let [~'foo (+ ~addend 1)] ~@body))
>> ;; notice the ~' in front of foo.
>>
>> (macroexpand-1 '(test-it 1 (println foo)))
>> ;=> (clojure.core/let [foo (clojure.core/+ 1 1)] (println foo))
>>
>> Please apply caution before using this feature; document the symbol to
>> be captured sufficiently.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> BG
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Sean Johnson <belu...@acm.org> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > If a macro calculates something and wants to make that result available
>> to
>> > the body, what's the right way to do that? So far I've tried these ways
>> > which don't work (this is not really my macro, it's just a simplified
>> > example to demonstrate the issue):
>> >
>> > 1) lexical scope doesn't work, the symbol gets qualified
>> >
>> > (defmacro test-it [addend & body] `(let [foo (+ ~addend 1)] ~@body))
>> >
>> > => (test-it 3 (println foo))
>> > CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't let qualified name:
>> > fcms.app/foo, compiling:(NO_SOURCE_PATH:1:1)
>> >
>> > => (macroexpand '(test-it 3 (println foo)))
>> > (let* [fcms.app/foo (clojure.core/+ 3 1)] (println foo))
>> >
>> >
>> > 2) autogen'ed lexical scope doesn't work, the body doesn't know what the
>> > autogen'ed symbol will be called
>> >
>> > (defmacro test-it [addend & body] `(let [foo# (+ ~addend 1)] ~@body))
>> >
>> > => (test-it 1 (println foo))
>> > CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol:
>> foo
>> > in this context, compiling:(NO_SOURCE_PATH:1:12)
>> >
>> > => (macroexpand '(test-it 3 (println foo)))
>> > (let* [foo__5755__auto__ (clojure.core/+ 3 1)] (println foo))
>> >
>> >
>> > 3) an interned var partially works, if the macro and its use are all in
>> one
>> > namespace, but not if not, it fails to intern the var
>> >
>> > (defmacro test-it [addend & body] `(do (def foo (+ ~addend 1)) ~@body))
>> >
>> > => (test-it 3 (println foo))
>> > 4
>> > nil
>> >
>> > => (macroexpand '(test-it 3 (println foo)))
>> > (do (def fcms.app/foo (clojure.core/+ 3 1)) (println foo))
>> >
>> > => (ns test)
>> > nil
>> > test=> (fcms.app/test-it 3 (println foo))
>> > CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't create defs outside
>> of
>> > current ns, compiling:(NO_SOURCE_PATH:1:1)
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't think my scenario is too unusual, but so far I haven't been
>> able to
>> > find anything about how to best do this.
>> >
>> > It case it helps, the real macro is with-collection and it takes a
>> > collection name, does a lookup and some validation in a DB, then needs
>> to
>> > share the collection's id with the body.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Sean
>> >
>> >
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