On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:40:34 AM UTC-7, Phillip Lord wrote:
>
> Patrick Logan <patric...@gmail.com <javascript:>> writes: 
> > OWL has several levels of increasingly expressive but general 
> inferences. 
> > Much of the domain could be represented in OWL (classes (i.e. sets), 
> > instances (i.e. set membership), relationships with domains and ranges, 
> > etc.), but there would still be a need for the domain-specific 
> inferences 
> > described in the original post. 
>
> Not sure that I understand the domain-specifc inferences that you mean 
> here; you want a model of the domain that draw inferences over that 
> model. The actual inferencing technology that you need is not 
> domain-specific. 
>

In the cryptography domain, the original post mentioned (I rephrase)...

"Given a secret key and encrypted nonce for that key, assert the 
unencrypted nonce."

What I mean is that there is no way to express this in OWL alone. This 
could be expressed in core.logic, in clojure, in java, in SPARQL + a custom 
function, in SWRL + a custom function, in Prolog, etc. 

> The other concern about applying OWL when it comes to security and 
> privacy 
> > is that OWL is based on Open World reasoning and does not follow the 
> Unique 
> > Name Assumption. OWL would say, "Unless these two things are explicitly 
> > designated as being different, assume they *might* be the same thing." 
> You 
> > have to go a bit further to close off these open questions in OWL. 
>
> One of the motivations for tawny, is that you can automate this process. 
> By default, the logic of OWL will not assume that Alice and Bob are 
> different people, as you say, but it's easy to add these statements. 
>

Yes, that's all I meant by the above, i.e. people unfamiliar with OWL 
inferences would need to be aware of this and explicitly add statements 
like "Alice and Bob are different individuals" or "the set of Male and 
Female are disjoint", etc.

-pdl

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