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On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Austin Haas <aus...@pettomato.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Brian,
>
> You should post your question to the miniKanren Google group.
>
> minikan...@googlegroups.com
>
> -austin
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> On Sat May 25 10:21 , Brian Craft wrote:
> > Wondering if anyone can give me some pointers with this, as I dive into
> > logic programming. Or point me to a more appropriate forum, if this is
> the
> > wrong one. I know a lot of you have been trying out core.logic.
> >
> > It was all going well until chapter four. The story so far: introduce
> some
> > simple function, like cdr, then develop a logic programming equivalent,
> > repeat. Then in chapter four we get the second commandment, and the
> > equivalent functions stop being equivalent. Instead, they generate
> > meaningless results, like 4.18, where the value of z is irrelevant to
> > whether the equivalent function (mem) would succeed, since the target
> > pattern appears earlier in the list, but memo outputs an infinite number
> of
> > the target pattern. Or they generate incorrect results, like 4.31, where
> > some of the patterns do not satisfy the equivalent function (rember),
> like
> > (a  b _.0 d e): z can't be removed unless it unifies with y, in which
> case
> > y would have been removed, not z. The chapter concludes by highlighting
> > this issue with "surprise", a simple example which generates solutions
> that
> > don't satisfy the constraints.
> >
> > I was hoping, at that point, for insights into accurately translating
> > functions into their logic programming equivalents, however the chapter
> > ends with "Please pass the aspirin", and the book continues with more
> > "second commandment" examples that also produce unhelpful results.
> >
> > So, I'm a bit baffled about the point of this exercise. Why is it useful
> to
> > have a second commandment that converts functions into logic programming
> > functions that are superficially similar, but fundamentally different,
> > producing solutions that are irrelevant or incorrect for the original
> > function? Is there some different technique that would allow one to
> > generate correct solutions with logic programming?
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