C is a "C-language", and it seems a lot simpler than clojure to me. K&R is 
about 200 pages. I expect you mean C++, Java, etc. Not meaning to start a 
language war, but my own experiences with C++ and Java have mostly 
convinced me that the added complexity in those languages don't lead to 
better code: quite the opposite. I tend to agree with Torvald's amusing 
rants on this subject. So, yeah, coming from C, javascript, scheme, and 
what-not, clojure seems like it has a large number of different ideas baked 
into it. Maybe it's the right number of ideas. I'm only a couple weeks into 
it. So far it's all been good, except for when I have to muck with java 
stuff. ;)

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:08:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Brian Craft <craft...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> I suspect that if you come from java or C++ it seems like a simple 
>> language, but it feels pretty cluttered compared to other languages.
>>
>
> Interesting observation and probably true. Although I did Lisp back at 
> university (in the early/mid-80's), most of my career has been in C-family 
> languages so, yes, Clojure feels like a VERY simple language with almost no 
> syntax. Having recently read more Scheme / CL code, I can see how folks 
> coming from those languages think Clojure is cluttered. But it's SO much 
> simpler than the C-languages that it must surely be only a little more 
> cluttered than Scheme / CL? Do the differences really seem that big? 
> Genuine question, since I've been immersed in C-languages for so long...
> -- 
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