What version of clojure are you guys using, just to understand this a
little better? I think apply was given a boost in 1.3 or 1.4--I'm a
relative newbie, myself.

Wes

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Ben Wolfson <wolf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Alan Malloy <a...@malloys.org> wrote:
> > This is nonsense. If s is fixed-size at compile-time, you would never use
> > apply to begin with. Why bother with (applyn 10 + [1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
> ])
> > when you could just write (+ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10)?
>
> Why bother to write (+ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10) when you could just write 55?
>
> In order to write (+ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...) you need more than just the
> length of the list, you need to know its contents as well.
>
> (let [s (take 10 (infinite-stream-of-random-integers))] (applyn 10 + s))
>
> will work right---you know the length of s---but you're not going to
> be able to just directly apply +.
>
> I'm skeptical for a different reason:
>
> user=> (let[t(fn[](apply       + '(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10)))]
> (time(dotimes [_ 1000000] (t))))
> "Elapsed time: 1736.91518 msecs"
> nil
> user=> (let[t(fn[](applyn 10 + '(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10)))]
> (time(dotimes [_ 1000000] (t))))
> "Elapsed time: 2375.503756 msecs"
> nil
>
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