On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Michael Klishin wrote:
> Paul deGrandis:
> > 4.) What are the limitations behind changing the CA process?  Can the CA 
> > process be made digital (a scan of a signed CA, SSH shared key, OAuth 
> > credential confirmation) or potentially reformed to allow more of the 
> > community to easily get involved, especially for smaller patches or doc 
> > changes?
> > After looking at similar communities (Scala - 
> > http://docs.scala-lang.org/sips/sip-submission.html, Python - 
> > http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/), it seems like there are potential 
> > improvements we could make as the language, ecosystem, and community evolve.
> >  
>  
> It would be great if someone from clojure/core could explain why CAs have to 
> be submitted via snail mail.
>  
> Oracle, OpenJDK, ASF, Neo Technologies and several other companies accept CAs 
> as PDFs. From my personal
> experience with neo4j, it takes no more than a day to submit and have your CA 
> confirmed.
>  
> Sounds like if something is legally acceptable for Oracle, ASF, OpenJDK and 
> significantly smaller yet
> not exactly young companies, it can work well for Clojure?
>  
> The current process definitely does not take a day and is problematic for 
> people who live outside of
> North America and Western Europe. People in Russia, South America, Asia don't 
> necessarily have
> the luxury of cheap, reliable, fast snail mail delivery to North Carolina. 
> FedEx and friends
> charge over $200 for a single sheet of paper mailed to Durham, NC from 
> Moscow. $200+ for an
> opportunity to spend my time contributing to an OSS project in this age of 
> GitHub sounds
> a little unreasonable.
>  
>  
>  


I'd just like to echo this sentiment. I would very much like to contribute to 
Clojure, but getting a CA from Ankara to NC just isn't practical. I'm lucky in 
that I'll be in the US for a couple of conferences later this fall, at which 
point I should be able to send one from a hotel somewhere, but I'm disappointed 
that an electronic copy is not considered sufficient (especially now that 
Preview.app on the Mac let's me import my signature using the web cam). I 
completely understand and agree with the desire for there to be at least a 
small barrier before one can become involved with Clojure development, but 
requiring physical mail seems like a biased barrier that is much larger for 
some than others.


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