Hi Jim,

Thank you for comprehensible explanation.
I understand.

Thanks,
- Takahiro

On Sep 12, 10:45 am, Jim Crossley <jcrossl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Takahiro,
>
> When considering a specific library in isolation, e.g. HornetQ, there is
> little difference between using it within or without an app server.
>
> Benefits of an app server include uniform deployment, centralized
> configuration, monitoring, and control, clustering capabilities to support
> scaling and high availability, multi-resource transactions, and in-process
> services like caching, messaging, and scheduling. Things that matter to
> larger organizations in which different groups produce applications that
> need to coordinate, often deployed to environments controlled by still
> other groups.
>
> For certain applications, I would recommend using libraries to access
> external processes like Memcached, RabbitMQ, or cron, for example. And for
> others, I would recommend an app server.
>
> As always, it depends on the requirements of the application and the
> capabilities of the organization to support it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:26:21 PM UTC-4, Takahiro Hozumi wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Forgive my ignorance, although I think the project must be useful, but
> > I still don't understand what is the benefit of using application
> > server.
> > What is the difference between using a particular library(e.g.
> > HornetQ) with JBoss AS7 and using the same one without JBoss AS7?
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > - Takahiro
>
> > On Sep 12, 4:30 am, Jim Crossley <jcrossl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We released our third official version of Immutant today!
>
> > > With this release we now publish the Immutant namespaces to Clojars.
> > They
> > > are of limited use when run outside of Immutant, of course, but they'll
> > at
> > > least compile so you can mock/stub/redefine them in your unit tests. You
> > > can render some of them mostly functional by adding the relevant jars to
> > > your project.clj, e.g. Infinispan, HornetQ, etc, and we expect to add
> > more
> > > "container-less" functionality in future releases.
>
> > > Obviously, they're completely functional *inside* an Immutant container,
> > so
> > > we've published a library to facilitate integration testing, and
> > continued
> > > to improve our nrepl/swank support so you can now add dependencies to
> > your
> > > project on the fly without having to redeploy it.
>
> > > Here's the announcement:http://bit.ly/immutant030
>
> > > Enjoy and thanks,
> > > Jim

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