Thanks Bill !!
On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:19:06 PM UTC+5:30, Bill Caputo wrote: > > > On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Murtaza Husain wrote: > > > Bill that is very interesting. So how do you make them learn. > > Haha, I don't make anyone do *anything* on my team (I'm not exaggerating). > My first (and more or less last) directive as team-lead is to declare it a > team of peers. We ask people to join us who want to do what's needed for us > to succeed. At most we will explain that the team uses clojure (and > javascript and ruby, and something new when we need it) and if they aren't > *eager* to learn new things to solve problems (and that's obvious in about > 30 seconds of interviewing), there's no point in wasting our time. > > > Do you pair them up with someone who knows on some task? I mean how do > you structure learning ? > > If this stuff was reducible to rules, you wouldn't need learners, you > could do the whole training bit - maybe even write a program to write code > for you. Hire people who like to learn, put them on the team. That's it. > The team figures it out from there (i.e. different in each case, based on > personalities, languages, tasks, goals, current deadlines, etc.) > > > Bcoz as you mentioned that put them into a team where everyone likes to > share, however everyone may be working on things above them, > > If getting this person up to speed is important for team's success, there > is nothing above them... there is only velocity. If velocity is more > important than learning, the ramp-up time will be longer... if the wider > organization values speed over competence, you'll get shitty code (that's > not a learning clojure issue). > > > and they may not be able to grasp, and they may also not have time. > > If either of these are true - and we made the mistake of asking them to > join our team - they wouldn't be around long enough for it to matter. > > bill > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en