yes, when starting my project, I was looking at the logging library which 
resides (resided) in clojure.contrib and I didn't like it at that point in 
time. I think because it was trying to do too many things at once. If my 
use case can be solved with some small java wrappers, I try to do it on my 
own. This is of course not the case for jdbc where I appreciate java.jdbc 
although I have difficulties using c3p0 with sybase. I will follow up on 
this maybe later).

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