This does not really answer Ken's question, does it ? 2011/8/25 Paulo Pinto <paulo.jpi...@gmail.com>
> invokedynamic reduces drastically the lookup times you require in > dynamic languages. The JVM and JIT understand what you are trying > to do and can optimize the invocation. > > Currently all dynamic languages targeting the JVM generate code > that cannot be easily optimized by the JVM before invokedynamic > was available. > > -- > Paulo > > On Aug 25, 9:59 am, Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Tal Liron <tal.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey folks, > > > > > I just want to reassure y'all that I am working on this. It took a > while to > > > create a test environment: one of the challenges of using invokedynamic > is > > > that the Java language does not support it; so the best way to test > right > > > now is with ASM 4.0, which is still not officially released. > Documentation > > > on the opcode is also somewhat scattered, and mostly out of date, since > > > JSR-292 has changed quite a bit until the final release. The JRuby folk > are > > > definitely at the cutting edge of this right (well, after all, JRuby's > John > > > Rose is the key mover and architect behind the JSR), and I'm trying to > learn > > > from their implementation. Right now I'm working on a code tree outside > the > > > main Clojure source, and once that seems to work, I will try to merge > it > > > into a branch. > > > > > So, it's not *quite* as easy as I hoped, but I still think it will be > much > > > easier to use invokedynamic in Clojure than in JRuby. > > > > > I'll keep the mailing list updated on my (slow) progress, and will > > > definitely make the code public once it becomes ... presentable. > > > > Just out of curiosity, what will this actually enable? Optimizations? > > What can we expect might perform faster -- calling closures? > > Functional function-calls such as map, reduce, etc.? Multimethods, > > protocols, and things like that? > > > > -- > > Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! > > Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true > > hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more > > civilized age. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
