I'm beginning to think this has degenerated a bit into argument for arguments sake.
Yes, JRE. You don't need the JDK to read/eval .clj files. And in the context of where this all started, namely, critiques to the current getting started experience for new users, a 75MB JDK + 100MB IDE is exactly the sort of heavyweight, intimidating experience that detracts from initial exposure. Clojure isn't just competing with Groovy, Scala, and other JVM languages for developer attention. Websites like try-clojre.org have their place, but aren't really in this context. Official support for a starter kit that automatically downloads or packages clojure, jline, etc would go a long way to lowering barrier-to-entry. Lein is one such option, but unlikely to get official recognition giving clojure/core's (arguably correct) decision to stick to maven. Groovy is really exemplary in this regard: installer on windows, .deb/apt packaging on linux (clojure has one, but it's 1.0). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
