Again, it's not that *I* wouldn't pay, it just seems unfortunate that most
people won't get to use it.  Whether right or misguided, there is a culture
of free as in free beer on the net, that will result in most not giving it a
chance.  A separate but related issue is the advantage of free as in
freedom; if designed for collaborative content development, that would make
the service more actively used and free of errors, and more scalable to
include models of other libraries, with library developers using the tool to
model their own new libraries.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com> wrote:

>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:10 PM, rob levy wrote:
>
> > This seems great.  The $20 bothers me, not because I don't want to pay
> it, I would gladly donate this meager amount for such a useful resource.
>  There's just something in poor taste about not making this open to
> everyone.  And there's an implicit camaraderie and good will that developer
> communities have come to expect that makes this paywall seem weird and
> unwelcoming.  If you framed this as a donation, with access not contingent
> on donation, it would be perfectly fine-- and people might actually use it.
>
> If people feel that the work is worthwhile, they'll pay, if not, they
> won't.  I suspect that I'll end up sinking about a full man-month into the
> ontology when all is said and done (with incremental improvements as later
> versions of Clojure are released, etc) so I don't feel badly about charging
> real money for that, and being honest and direct about the nature of the
> transaction.  Nevermind the effort around the UX, etc.
>
> Really, I'd wish more developers would charge reasonable amounts for tools
> that they work on for free in their spare time; perhaps more of them would
> work on them full-time, and we'd have better tools!
>
> Anyway, it's just a preview site at the moment -- there's no "paywall"
> anywhere.
>
> - Chas
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