Hi Mark, On Friday 04 Mar 2011 21:08:03 Mark Rathwell wrote: > >> I've decided to offer a 200 USD bounty for implementing "ClojureScript > > I think you are missing a couple zeros in your offer price ;) >
:-) . Well, code bounties do not tend to cover all of the time of writing the program, and are more of a motivation. I worked on several O'ReillyNet articles for about that amount, and again it was not enough to reimborse me for all the work, but it was good enough for me. Randal Schwartz (of Perl 5 fame) said that working on a technical book is a lot of work and earns only slightly above minimum wage: http://www.perlmonks.org/?parent=458151;node_id=3333 Recently, a translator I contacted on the hebtranslators YahooGroups mailing list volunteered to copy-edit the Hebrew version of my story "The Enemy and How I Helped to Fight it", which is pretty long, in exchange for a shirt and less than 100 USD (but naturally also other possible perks like giving her thanks and credit and a link), and she detected many problems. As Paul Graham notes here: http://www.paulgraham.com/opensource.html - the word "amateur" used to mean someone who loves what he does, and many people, including many open source enthusiasts and most bloggers do, despite the fact that they don't always get paid for what they do. What I'm trying to say is that I don't expect my 200 USD to cover all the work, but I expect it to be a nice motivation for someone, who is more knowledgable in Clojure and its good style, than I am, to perform some of the work . > Seriously though, these things tend to go better when you say something > like "I've decided to work on this new project, who wants to help?", > instead of offering a very small reward and seeming as though you are not > willing to do any of the work. You may be right. I should note that I'm willing to offer some ongoing help with the project (contact me via IM at http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/ ), but I still don't feel confident enough in doing it myself. I am a capable programmer, but I'm also kinda lazy and think someone here could benefit from it. I've seen much smaller bug bounties than 200 USD, BTW, and I may opt to increase the amount, given enough interest. Regards, Shlomi Fish > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Shlomi Fish <shlo...@iglu.org.il> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've decided to offer a 200 USD bounty for implementing "ClojureScript" > > (a tentative name), a Clojure API and a convenient command line utility > > for performing quick system admin tasks, text manipulation tasks, > > command line scripting, etc. similar to the use cases of bash/awk/sed or > > bash along with /usr/bin/perl . If you're interested in doing this let > > me know. > > > > Motivation: > > ----------- > > > > For a long time, I've desired a usable and popular dialect of Lisp, which > > was > > the promise of Paul Graham's Arc ( http://www.paulgraham.com/arc.html ) > > and of > > several other attempts, including some of my own attempts nicknamed > > "Park" and > > "Spark". Now, it seems that the most trendy dialect of Lisp has become > > Clojure, and while I challenge some of its design decisions, it seems > > pretty > > nice. > > > > One of the things that make a language popular and likable is its utility > > for > > quick-and-dirty tasks. For further motivation please see: > > > > * http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html > > > > * http://www.paulgraham.com/power.html > > > > * http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/perl/joy-of-perl/ > > > > * http://xoa.petdance.com/Stop_saying_%22script%22 > > > > * http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/FiveWorlds.html - see what he > > says > > about "throwaway" code vs. inhouse code vs. "shrinkwrap" code. > > > > * http://www.perl.com/pub/2007/12/06/soto-11.html - Larry Wall's > > "Programming > > is Hard, Let's Go Scripting". > > > > * > > http://perl.org.il/presentations/larry-wall-present-continuous-future- > > perfect/transcript.html > > > > (short URL - http://xrl.us/bhks6t ). > > > > * http://perl.plover.com/yak/12views/samples/notes.html#sl-39 - titled > > "Why > > Lisp Will Never Win" - comparing and contrasting Common Lisp to Awk and > > Perl. > > > > --- > > > > How to do it: > > ------------- > > > > The one who will perform the task, will look at the scripting > > capabilities of > > Perl 5, Ruby, Perl 6, Python, Bash and zsh (one can use Freenode for > > asking questions about them) and will devise a specification for > > implementing something similar in Clojure. > > > > Afterwards, they will implement it as a user-land, high-level API above > > Clojure with a simple command line front-end tentatively called "lurk", > > which > > will be useful for it. Once completed, they will get the money, and > > credit. > > > > The licence of the newly written code has to be the MIT/X11 licence (see: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License ) or a similar permissive > > licence compatible with both the GPLv2 and the GPLv3. > > > > Please let me know if you have further questions. You can contact me in > > various ways here: > > > > http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/ > > > > (I prefer either one of my Jabber accounts or MSN as IM, and I don't > > always have IRC on.) > > > > Regards, > > > > Shlomi Fish > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Why I Love Perl - http://shlom.in/joy-of-perl > > > > Modern Perl - the 3-D Movie. In theatres near you. > > > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply > > . > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > your first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ "Star Trek: We, the Living Dead" - http://shlom.in/st-wtld God gave us two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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