On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>> No menu options exist to create a
>> new Clojure namespace .clj file,
>
> It does. You should see an option "Clojure File" in the "File > Create new"
> menu.

I don't.

> If not, then probably there's a problem with the java perspective not being
> refreshed.

The install prompted me to restart Eclipse afterward, and I did do so.

> That's more annoying now that people will more and more use the Eclipse
> integrated "market place" to install ccw, and thus not follow the quick
> install guide which explicitly says "Go to menu Window > Reset Perspective
> ..".

Restarting Eclipse was presumably supposed to suffice. No "quick
install guide" was presented to me on install.

> Will you please file an issue for this ?

I don't have an account there, unless my gmail account is good for
Google Code access.

>> nor to create a REPL using the
>> project dependencies,
>
> Not true.

I saw this with my own eyes. Trust me.

> Select any clj file of your project, or select the project's node, and
> trigger the "Run > Clojure Application" command.

I don't recall seeing such a command.

Also, wouldn't such a command attempt to run a genclass -main rather
than a project REPL? If it actually does the latter then it is
grievously mis-named.

> Please note that you have installed the stable version of CCW, version
> 0.0.64, and that in this version the REPL is working, but "featureless".
> If you want to help test future 0.2.0 version of CCW, you'll need to remove
> version 0.0.64, and install the alternate feature from the ccw update site :
>   * first uninstall CCW 0.0.64: Menu Help > About Eclipse > Installation
> Detail > [Select "Counterclockwise ..", click Uninstall...]
>   * follow the manual steps listed here
> http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started_with_Eclipse_and_Counterclockwise
>   * but instead of installing version 0.0.64, go to the "... Release
> candidates version" category and check "Counterclockwise Feature REPL UI
> Branch" version 0.2.0.RC04

Sounds like a rather awkward procedure. Nobody much will try your beta
version if a) it isn't advertised *anywhere*, so nobody even knows it
exists, b) it requires a complicated procedure to install instead of
point at something and click, and c) the so-called "stable" version
does not seem to completely work properly out-of-the-box.

>> I also clicked the
>> change-perspective gadget after noticing it indicating a "Java"
>> perspective, to see if there was a separate "Clojure" perspective to
>> change to, which might make the desired options appear in the
>> interface; also no dice.)
>
> I have good news for you: ccw documentation is linked from the main page of
> the counterclockwise project, in the "Quick links" section, and it's neither
> a pdf neither a video, plain old wiki page:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/wiki/Documentation

That's a bit snarky. But no-one should have to read the documentation
just to get it installed and to locate and use the most obvious
features that have direct parallels in Enclojure. In particular,
no-one has to with Enclojure. If there are extra install steps beyond
"install and restart IDE" then there shouldn't be; if there are menu
items whose names are misleading they should be renamed; etc.

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