On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:

> On the other hand, running a job scheduler from outside Clojure
> results in cranking up a big, slow to start up, expensive JVM process
> every single time a task needs to run, each of which runs one task
> once, and the scheduling itself must be done in an icky language like
> shell or cron's idiosyncratic "crontab" files with icky error
> reporting (e.g., need to run a local mail *server* to receive error
> notifications).

If you care about startup times, you can use nailgun. But that shouldn't matter 
unless you're running the job every minute or something.

As for scheduling, crontabs are really not hard to figure out. If you need more 
complex scheduling, you can do that from your Clojure script (essentially using 
cron to set the polling interval).

And what kinds of error reporting could you do from a persistent daemon that 
you couldn't also do from a cron job? Besides, most systems that have cron also 
come with postfix (though it's disabled by default on Mac OS X), so all you 
have to do is add your email address to /etc/aliases. Email-based error 
reporting for background tasks is really nice because you don't have to 
remember to check some log file or other task-specific status indicator 
periodically (which has burned me in the past).

But this is all somewhat beside the point. What Trevor said sounded as though 
the specific types of tasks he mentioned (sending emails and checking some kind 
of status via web app) were particularly unsuited to scheduled jobs; I was 
asking what it was about those tasks in particular that made him lean towards a 
daemon instead.

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