I don't know how to check the GC activity on my project, but I did run
Mian on Jython. It performs much like my initial Clojure version. It
consumes absurd amounts of memory and never finishes.

So I think we can safely say that Java's GC or the way it stores data
is less efficient on this type of problem than Python.

On Nov 4, 10:43 pm, Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-googlegroups.
620...@mired.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:28:12 +0100
> Pepijn de Vos <pepijnde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I have written a Python script to analyze Minecraft levels and render a 
> > graph. Then I did the same with Clojure. It takes Python 10 seconds to 
> > analyze a map, while it takes Clojure over a minute.
>
> > After having tried different options without any significant improvement, I 
> > am lost as to why there is such a huge difference. I wouldn't mind an extra 
> > pair of eyes/brains to look at this.
>
> > I blogged about it in more detail 
> > here:http://pepijndevos.nl/clojure-versus-python
> > Clojure version:https://github.com/pepijndevos/Clomian/
> > Python version:https://github.com/l0b0/mian
>
> > Clojure spends most of its time in the freqs function, here are a couple of 
> > variations:https://gist.github.com/663096
>
> > If you want to run the code yourself, you'll need a Minecraft level and 
> > JNBT, which is not on Maven.
> > JNBT:http://jnbt.sourceforge.net/
> > The level used in the blogpost:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10094764/World2.zip
>
> Can you check GC activity in the clojure version?
>
> I once ran into an issue where Python was running rings around an
> Eiffel version (compiled down to native code - no VM need apply). This
> looks similar to what you have, in that I built a large data
> structure, and then started groveling over it. Turned out that Eiffel
> was doing a mark-and-sweep GC, which was spending all of it's time
> marking and sweeping the large static data structure, whereas python
> doing a reference count GC didn't. Given that I know nothing about
> Java GCs, this is just a WAG.
>
> Come to think of it, how about trying to run the program Jython? That
> should have the same GC issues. If it's some similar environmental
> problem, that would show up there as well.
>
>      <mike
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