On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:21:01 +0200
Meikel Brandmeyer <m...@kotka.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 10.09.2010 um 21:17 schrieb Mike Meyer:
>
> > 1) Write program in chosen unix-friendly interpreted language.
>
> You lost exactly here. "unix-friendly". Since you keep putting your context
> over everything, I will also keep on putting mine over everything. Ruby,
> Python, Perl, Tcl, ... are all not installed on the machine I have to target.
> So writing things in them requires me to have two month dance with corporate
> IT only to get no support in the end. I'm sorry, but "unix friendly
> interpreted language" is *not* simple.
Fair enough. But Java is not installed on the machines *I* have to
target, so writing things in a JVM language requires *me* to go
through the multi-month dance with security just to be allowed to use
it. (Come to that, I've already had clojure rejected by my current
client because the JVM hasn't been vetted for security, and doing so
wasn't worth the effort).
In the real world, you get one of two situations:
1) Most linux distros, and a few Unix distros (including Macs) come
with Java, Python, Perl, Ruby and most popular languages already
installed.
2) Windows, the rest of the Unix distros and a few oddball Linux
distros come *without* Java, Python, Perl, Tcl, Ruby
etc. installed, so you have to go through some kind of dance to get
them.
As far as I can tell, neither one has an advantage over the other,
unless you're in an environment where one has already been approved,
and the other hasn't. I'm trying to be fair, and ignore things that
are local aberrations that only need to be overcome once.
I mean, really - if I complained that Clojure had a problem because it
ran on the JVM and my clients don't want to go to the effort to vet
the JVM, you'd be quite right in laughing at me and pointing out that
the problem is with my clients, not with clojure.
<mike
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