Weird. I wonder if I was using an outdated version of Clojure or (more
likely) assumed from (doc drop-while) that it wouldn't handle false
the way I wanted. When doc says "not nil" should I assume it means
"neither nil nor false", or should the doc for drop-while be updated?

user=> (doc drop-while)
-------------------------
clojure.core/drop-while
([pred coll])
  Returns a lazy sequence of the items in coll starting from the first
  item for which (pred item) returns nil.

On Aug 9, 1:01 pm, Armando Blancas <armando_blan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It works with booleans:
>
> user=> (drop-while neg? [-3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 ])
> (0 1 2 3)
> user=> (class (neg? -5))
> java.lang.Boolean
>
> On Aug 9, 12:09 pm, Alan <a...@malloys.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi all, I'm new to the group; I have some experience with both CL and
> > Java, though it's been a while for each. Anyway I really like Clojure
> > as a way of combining the best parts of the two languages, but I'm
> > still getting the hang of it and there are often things that confuse
> > me.
>
> > For example, I wanted to define a ring function, which takes as input
> > N objects, and returns a hash table mapping object N to object N+1
> > (mod N). I intended to use this to describe a compass object:
> > (ring :w :n :e :s) should result in {:w :n, :n :e, :e :s, :s :w}.
>
> > I could have done this with basic recursion or as a list comprehension
> > using (for), (count), and (rem), but it seemed there must be a more
> > elegant solution with lazy sequences, like maybe combining cycle and
> > map to gloss over the N==0 wraparound issue. What I came up with was
> > frankly a monstrosity; I don't have the source with me at work, but it
> > looked roughly like:
>
> > (defn ring [& elts]
> >   (apply assoc {}
> >                       (map #(list
> >                                    %1
> >                                    (fnext (drop-while
> >                                               (comp (partial or
>
> > (partial not= %1)
>
> > nil))
> >                                               (cycle elts))
> >                                             elts))))
>
> > Since then I've realized I could have used nth and map-indexed to get
> > a less ugly result, but I was baffled by the awkwardness of drop-
> > while: is there a reason it demands nil or not-nil, instead of
> > treating false and nil as logical false? Converting false to nil was a
> > real bear (and retyping this from memory I'm pretty sure my syntax for
> > comp/partial/or is wrong somewhere), and in my experience clojure is
> > too clever make me do crap like this; what am I missing?
>
>

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