>
> Tying the fortunes of Clojure to Java was a brilliant move and one
> that I've advocated for years but the trend I've seen lately to try to
> paper over the Java underpinnings of the language worries me, as does
> talk of making Clojure-in-Clojure. There's a small but viable market
> for people doing difficult things in a Java-flavored Lisp (Runa,
> Flightcaster, BackType etc), but this is where the future of Clojure
> lies - as a power tool for heavy lifting on the Java platform.
>

So those who left Java behind years ago but like Lisps in general and Clojure
in particular and want to minimize their contact with Java, where do
they fit in your view?
Enemies of the proper use of Clojure? Destroyers of the future?

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