On 30 June 2010 05:02, Jason Smith <ja...@lilypepper.com> wrote:
> So look, I think the actual CompSci guys (looking to teach) are asking
> for simplicity, and the Java guys are saying it's not that simple.

I think both sides have points valid *within the context in which they operate*.

> If you want to get the length of a String in Clojure, you have to read
> JavaDoc.  There are plugins for all the major IDEs that, more or less,
> work well enough for beginners.

(count "Huh?")

> One of the great strengths of Clojure, and what is going to make it
> hard for students who aren't already comfortable with Java, is that it
> not only integrates with Java, it depends on that integration.  So you
> have to know a lot about Java just to get started.

For certain kinds of "enterprisey" tasks, sure. For implementing a
bunch of interpreters to investigate various models of evaluation or
perhaps a genetic algorithms framework &c. -- not at all.

Let me QFT David's message:

On 30 June 2010 05:23, David Nolen <dnolen.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I dunno I find Clojure pretty simple and that generally you pay
> (cognitively) only for what you use.

Sincerely,
Michał

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