On 30 June 2010 05:02, Jason Smith <ja...@lilypepper.com> wrote: > So look, I think the actual CompSci guys (looking to teach) are asking > for simplicity, and the Java guys are saying it's not that simple.
I think both sides have points valid *within the context in which they operate*. > If you want to get the length of a String in Clojure, you have to read > JavaDoc. There are plugins for all the major IDEs that, more or less, > work well enough for beginners. (count "Huh?") > One of the great strengths of Clojure, and what is going to make it > hard for students who aren't already comfortable with Java, is that it > not only integrates with Java, it depends on that integration. So you > have to know a lot about Java just to get started. For certain kinds of "enterprisey" tasks, sure. For implementing a bunch of interpreters to investigate various models of evaluation or perhaps a genetic algorithms framework &c. -- not at all. Let me QFT David's message: On 30 June 2010 05:23, David Nolen <dnolen.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > I dunno I find Clojure pretty simple and that generally you pay > (cognitively) only for what you use. Sincerely, Michał -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en