Thanks all for replies.

Laurent, Alex you guys are right, the problem is only with aesthetics
of nesting / boilerplate.  The nesting implementation semantically
expresses exactly what is required.

The with-cleanup macro seems really neat.  Guess I'll learn macros
first and try to implement one.

One more interesting perspective to exceptional handling is the way
Perl 6 is doing it - http://feather.perl6.nl/syn/S04.html#Exception_handlers

See this -

{
    my $s = '';
    die 3;
    CATCH {
        when 1 {$s ~= 'a';}
        when 2 {$s ~= 'b';}
        when 3 {$s ~= 'c';}
        when 4 {$s ~= 'd';}
        default {$s ~= 'z';}
    }

    is $s, 'c', 'Caught number';
};

Thanks!

On Apr 21, 7:05 pm, Alex Osborne <a...@meshy.org> wrote:
> ka <sancha...@gmail.com> writes:
> > The whole code gets cluttered with all these try finally (and one
> > catch) statements.
>
> >   (try
> >     (let [conn1 (API1/getConnection ..)]
> >       (try
> >         (let [conn2 (API2/getConnection ..)]
> >           (try
> >             ( ........... Do something with conn1 conn2 ............)
> >             (finally
> >               (API2/closeConnection conn2))))
> >         (finally
> >           (API1/closeConnection conn1))))
> >     (catch Exception ex (.printStackTrace ex)))
>
> I guess the main difference in this compared to your java example is the
> levels of nesting.  This may look messy but it's semantically exactly
> what you're trying to express.
>
> > The macro solution looks good.  But with 2 different APIs for 2
> > connections, I would need to write 2 macros right?
>
> > (defmacro with-api1-connection [conn-sym arg1 arg2 & body]
> >   `(let [~conn-sym (API1/getConnection ~arg1 ~arg2)]
> >      (try
> >       ~...@body
> >       (finally (API1/closeConnection ~conn-sym)))))
>
> > (defmacro with-api2-connection [conn-sym arg1 arg2 arg3 & body]
> >   `(let [~conn-sym (API2/getConnection ~arg1 ~arg2 ~arg3)]
> >      (try
> >       ~...@body
> >       (finally (API2/closeConnection ~conn-sym)))))
>
> You could make things more general:
>
> (with-cleanup [conn1 (API1/getConnection ...) API1/closeConnection
>                conn2 (API2/openConnection ...) #(.disconnect %)]
>  ...)
>
> I'll leave implementation as an exercise, it's not much more complicated
> than the previous ones, the main trick would just be to make the macro
> recursive, have it expand into:
>
> (let [conn1 (API1/getConnection ...)]
>   (try
>     (with-cleanup [conn2 (API2/openConnection ...) #(.disconnect %)]
>       ...)
>     (finally
>       (API1/closeConnection conn1))))
>
> I'd probably start with a signature like this:
>
> (defmacro with-cleanup [[sym create cleanup & more] & body]
>   ...)
>
> Take a look at the source for with-open if you get stuck.
>
>
>
> > Coming from Java, this would be implemented as -
>
> > Connection1 conn1 = null;
> > Connection2 conn2 = null;
> > try {
> >   conn1 = API1.getConnection ..;
> >   conn2 = API2.getConnection ..;
> >   ...
> > }
> > catch (){}
> > finally {
> >   if (conn1 != null)
> >     API1.closeConnection(conn1);
> >   if (conn2 != null)
> >     API2.closeConnection(conn2);
> > }
>
> > I agree that this code doesn't look good from a purist pov, but any
> > issues besides that?
>
> The problem here is that this breaks lexical scope, conn1 and
> conn2 aren't defined outside their let block.  The Java example dodges
> this with mutation.  Python/Ruby/JavaScript etc dodge it by having
> special scoping rules: variables are scoped to functions rather than the
> enclosing block.
>
> Clojure's opinion, as I understand it, is that it's not worthwhile
> introducing mutation or special scoping rules simply to avoid some
> nesting, when we have perfectly good tools (macros) for doing purely
> syntactic transformations and removing boilerplate.
>
> There's nothing semantically wrong with nesting, it's just harder
> to read.  The Clojure idiom for reducing nesting is usually to use a
> macro like ->, ->> or with-open to flatten it.  In this case those
> aren't applicable, so I suggest defining your own.
>
> I'm not sure I phrased that clearly, please let me know if I'm not
> making sense. :-)
>
> Alex
>
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