On 25 March 2010 22:17, Brian Carper <briancar...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 11:55 am, Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com> wrote: > > Why does building and installing dependencies have to be harder than > this? Lein right now tries to fill this niche of being braindead easy > to use, and comes pretty close. I realize Maven does a lot more than > build and install dependencies, but for some of us, that's all we want > out of life, and it's pretty nice when it's that easy to do so.
Agreed. I know next to nothing about maven, other than it scared me back in my java days. It seems at first glance to be pretty impenetrable (at least in terms of how it is documented), and that's not say that I wasn't blown away by Chas's screencast. I'd certainly consider maven now or at least try it when my projects get bigger and require more than lein has to offer. Is there not an analogy to be drawn here between labrepl and lien? It seems both are targetted at being approachable to Clojure beginners (and in the case of lein small projects). labrepl isn't aiming to be the environment you run complex clojure projects with, and in the same way it seems that at some point you might want to migrate from lein to maven. I'd assumed that migrating a lein based project to a maven one (if required) would be as simple as running: $ lein pom Then when you're ready you can rm project.clj and just tweak your pom.xml for a pure maven build. If this is the case then lein seems to allow people to delay learning maven, which is a complex or at least daunting moving part in a complex environment. Not something you want to have to learn or adopt whilst straining to understand Clojure. Maven seems to be a polarising tool, some people love it and others hate it... This much we know. So anything we can do to prevent clojure being tarnished by the "maven haters", the better. lein seems to be a good step in this direction, and is possibly even a gentle introduction to maven for those wishing (or requiring) to make the jump. Is it possible for us as a community to agree on this much? R. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
