On Dec 5, 7:34 am, John Harrop <jharrop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Richard Newman <holyg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The problem is that it is an unreasonably high barrier to entry.
> > > There MUST be an electronic-only way (and it must not require a cell
> > > phone, CC#, &c.) if the full potential of this community is to be
> > > unleashed upon clojure-contrib. In particular, there should be a way
> > > to participate pseudonymously for those people that (unlike myself)
> > > value their privacy sufficiently not to want to even post here under
> > > their real names.
>
> > Raising the barrier to entry stops people pseudonymously contributing
> > code they don't own.
>
> But it also stops people pseudonymously contributing code they do own.
>

I don't want code from someone unwilling to put their real name on it.

> > Yes, this makes it more difficult for someone to just email a fix for
> > a small bug.
>
> And therein lies the problem. Most open source projects have a very low
> barrier to simply emailing a patch for a minor issue, and they benefit
> tremendously by it. This one does not, at least for now.
>
> However, I quite understand Rich's reasons for doing it.
>
>

Well, they have been described in detail here.

>
> I still don't. Plenty of open source projects apparently are willing to take
> the risks Rich is apparently afraid of. Why not this one?
>

The problems of open source projects that didn't do a good job of
provenance, and then wanted to switch or expand license options, are
well known.

> > I don't think it creates an unreasonably high barrier to entry
>
> And I do.
>

"I don't ... I do ... I don't ... I do"

This is a clear sign this discussion has run its course. Everyone
please give this a rest.

> > I don't see why there MUST be an electronic-only way.
>
> Because that's how people participate in open source projects!!
>
> Requiring snail mail, phone calls, or similarly for anything creates an
> impedance mismatch.

When you write your own language, you can make different choices, and
I'm sure you'll expect people to abide by them. And good luck getting
someone to try your pseudonymously written language.

Rich

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