Having this discussion under the topic GSOC 2017 is increasingly confusing (given that it's now not GSOC or 2017), so I'd suggest starting a new thread if there is more to talk about...
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:53:31 PM UTC-6, Daniel Slutsky wrote: > > Hi. > > Wanted to update that I decided not to be involved in GSoC 2020. > > Another option, similar and different, that some of us are discussing > elsewhere is Rails Girls SoC 2020. > https://railsgirlssummerofcode.org > https://railsgirlssummerofcode.org/about/ > I like the idea that it actively seeks diversity, and that it is possible > to submit a concrete open source project as a suggestion. > > > On Sunday, 12 January 2020 09:03:05 UTC+2, Daniel Slutsky wrote: >> >> To summarize the GSoC 2020 discussion so far: >> - Several individuals seem to be interested. >> - Alex Miller described some past experience and lessons. >> - .. and explained what is required to make it happen. >> - Daniel Compton and Clojurists Together offered their administrative >> help. >> - We need a small group or person to take the commitment of making it >> happen. >> - Some of us (like me) are thinking about it, not sure yet, and will >> decide in few weeks. >> >> >> On Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:49:13 UTC+2, Daniel Slutsky wrote: >>> >>> GSoC 2020 has been announced. >>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com >>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:05:12 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >>>> >>>> Outreachy seems like a great program but like most things, it requires >>>> significant time and money (https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/). >>>> >>>> They need an organization coordinator who can apply, find funds >>>> ($6500/intern), find mentors, help develop and assess projects. They also >>>> need mentors who are expected to spend 5-10 hrs/week for 6 weeks during >>>> the >>>> project. >>>> >>>> I'm not aware of anyone with the time or money to commit to an effort >>>> like this for Clojure. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:51 PM Noor Afshan Fathima <afshan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> GSOC would be great. Can someone also look into getting Clojure to >>>>> participate in Outreachy? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 10:18 PM, Alex Miller <al...@puredanger.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As far as I'm aware the work involved here is: >>>>>> >>>>>> - submitting the organization application (in Jan) >>>>>> - soliciting and writing up project ideas (in Jan/Feb) >>>>>> - soliciting potential mentors for each project (often there is a >>>>>> natural match between idea and mentor) - spring >>>>>> - pairing up selected students/projects and mentors - spring >>>>>> - getting mentors to write evals for their students - summer >>>>>> - accepting funds - fall >>>>>> - if desired, distributing those funds in some way (when I helped >>>>>> Cognitect run it, we redistributed the funds to pay for students to >>>>>> travel >>>>>> to Clojure conferences) - fall >>>>>> >>>>>> Great opportunity for someone to contribute! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:35 AM Daniel Compton < >>>>>> daniel.co...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks, I'm the secretary of Clojurists Together. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks very much for the background on GSoC and the kind words Alex >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clojurists Together would be happy to help provide the backing admin >>>>>>> infrastructure (bank accounts, international payments, etc.) and >>>>>>> oversight >>>>>>> to help run GSoC. However, I don't think anyone on the committee has >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> bandwidth to be the primary person to lead the GSoC project; we'd need >>>>>>> someone from the community to volunteer to be that person. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If someone else wants to run this as part of a different >>>>>>> organisation that's also totally fine with us, don't consider this us >>>>>>> calling "dibs". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Daniel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:34 AM Alex Miller <al...@puredanger.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> GSoC is an amazing opportunity if you get the right combination of >>>>>>>> an appropriately sized project, a motivated student, and a mentor that >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> both sufficient availability and expertise in guiding (like Ambrose's >>>>>>>> Typed >>>>>>>> Clojure work). If any of those aren't right, the project tends to >>>>>>>> fizzle >>>>>>>> out or go unused so a lot of the time and effort does not result in an >>>>>>>> effectual end result. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To some degree, Clojurists Together is doing the same kind of work >>>>>>>> but prioritizing projects that people care about and developers that >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> already "in" the project rather than students starting fresh (and >>>>>>>> paying >>>>>>>> more for the work). I think CT has created way more total value for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> community than GSoC ever did. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But again, depends on goals. If your goal is to connect students >>>>>>>> more closely to Clojure, then GSoC is great for that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:06:13 PM UTC-6, Daniel Slutsky >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ag, Alex, many thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These days some of us are trying to think where we should put our >>>>>>>>> efforts in the next few months. This might be one of the things we >>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>> consider. We'll update if we do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:20:47 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any "group" or organization can submit a project to GSoC as long >>>>>>>>>> as there are 2+ committers and there are existing releases under an >>>>>>>>>> OSI >>>>>>>>>> license (which includes EPL). The organization select projects, >>>>>>>>>> connects >>>>>>>>>> mentors to students, prods people about evaluations, and receives >>>>>>>>>> $500/completed student. Students submit proposals (usually these >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> happen under consultation with the project) and are directly paid >>>>>>>>>> stipends >>>>>>>>>> by Google for completed projects. I think the organization >>>>>>>>>> application is >>>>>>>>>> usually open in January. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think there are several groups in the Clojure ecosystem that >>>>>>>>>> would potentially be great orgs for this - CIDER, ClojureBridge, >>>>>>>>>> clj-commons, etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:23:43 AM UTC-6, Ag Ibragimov >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would you do it Daniel, would you apply? I apologize for if that >>>>>>>>>>> sounds like I'm brazenly pushing you. If I had capacity to do that, >>>>>>>>>>> I would >>>>>>>>>>> volunteer, alas I'm afraid I don't even know how that works. >>>>>>>>>>> It would be awesome if Clojure once again accepted in GSoC. How >>>>>>>>>>> can we (ordinary Clojuristas) help to get there? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun 01 Dec 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Slutsky <daniel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks so much, that helps to know. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On Sunday, 1 December 2019 06:36:33 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> We applied and were not accepted for a couple years. Having >>>>>>>>>>> done some of >>>>>>>>>>> >> the admin/org stuff in the past, I don't really want to do it >>>>>>>>>>> again, but an >>>>>>>>>>> >> organization like Clojurists Together would be great for that >>>>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>>>> >> (although I'm not looking to add any work to anyone else >>>>>>>>>>> either). It's not >>>>>>>>>>> >> really that hard, just a little tedious to deal with the >>>>>>>>>>> money parts. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 1:37:14 PM UTC-6, Daniel >>>>>>>>>>> Slutsky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>> has there been thoughts about clojure activity in GSoC since >>>>>>>>>>> 2017? >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Monday, 6 March 2017 11:35:41 UTC+2, Daniel Solano Gómez >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> We are pleased to announce that Google has selected Clojure >>>>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> mentoring organisation for this year’s summer of code! This >>>>>>>>>>> means that >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Google will sponsor students from around the world to work >>>>>>>>>>> on projects that >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> are part of the Clojure ecosystem. Now that we know that >>>>>>>>>>> Clojure will be >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> participating, what happens next? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Getting involved >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The student application period will be open from the 20th >>>>>>>>>>> of March >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> through the 3rd of April. In the meantime, there are a >>>>>>>>>>> number of ways to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> get involved: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> *Mentors* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> If you maintain an open source Clojure(Script) project and >>>>>>>>>>> would like to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> grow it, you should consider becoming a mentor. You can >>>>>>>>>>> find out more about >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> what being a mentor is about out on the mentors page >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> <http://clojure-gsoc.org/mentors/>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> *Students* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> While it is still to early to formally apply as GSoC >>>>>>>>>>> student, this is a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> great time to start thinking about project ideas and reach >>>>>>>>>>> out to potential >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> mentors. Check out the students page < >>>>>>>>>>> http://clojure-gsoc.org/students/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> for more information on how to apply successfully. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> *Everyone else* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Even if you can’t participate as student or don’t want to >>>>>>>>>>> be a mentor, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> you can still help by letting people know about GSoC at >>>>>>>>>>> your local Clojure >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> meetup, university, or other local group. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> We would also like to extend a big thank you to all of the >>>>>>>>>>> people who >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> contributed to our project ideas >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> <http://clojure-gsoc.org/project-ideas/>. 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