Thanks Sean!!!

Em domingo, 10 de março de 2019 01:25:30 UTC-3, Sean Corfield escreveu:
>
> > Such a beautiful language with so few tutorials, Elixir and other newer 
> languages have so much video tutorials for the newcomers...I really don't 
> understand.
>
>  
>
> Historically, Clojure’s main attraction has been for seasoned developers 
> so there hasn’t been much need or incentive to create tutorials aimed at 
> newcomers, especially folks who aren’t already professional software 
> developers, and especially the sort of video tutorials you are referring to 
> (which seem like a fairly new-ish phenomenon to me, regardless of language).
>
>  
>
> I think that may change as Clojure gains more popularity and more reach. 
> Maybe. But it’s always going to be a fairly niche language.
>
>  
>
> In addition to Eric’s purelyfunctional.tv, Jacek’s Reagent, and a few 
> others already mentioned, see if anything here helps: 
> http://www.learn-clojure.com/clojure_videos.html (mostly presentations 
> from conferences and user groups but also some links to tutorials/courses).
>
>  
>
> Also check out Timothy Baldridge’s Clojure videos: 
> https://tbaldridge.pivotshare.com/home 
>
>  
>
> Regarding Windows, yes, it’s always been a second-class citizen for 
> Clojure development because all the early adopters were Mac/Linux users. 
> Windows versions of Leiningen and Boot took a while to appear. A Windows 
> version of the new CLI/`deps.edn` tooling is in alpha testing right now.
>
>  
>
> Make sure you sign up for the Clojurians Slack (sign up 
> http://clojurians.net/ ) and/or the Clojurians Zulip 
> https://clojurians.zulipchat.com – both of these have active communities 
> who will be happy to help beginners getting up to speed. Slack is by far 
> the larger community but Zulip has a fully searchable archive (which Slack 
> lacks on the free plans – and most of the channels from Slack are mirrored 
> to Zulip now).
>
>  
>
> Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
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> *From:* clo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <clo...@googlegroups.com 
> <javascript:>> on behalf of Eric Calonico <eric.calo...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 9, 2019 3:07:56 PM
> *To:* Clojure
> *Subject:* Re: Closure lang for newbies in 2019 
>  
> Hi Marcin, I gree 110% with you!!! 
>
> I am having the same problems and I agree 100% with you!! What's more, I 
> am on Windows...lol
>
> It's just too much work right now, not enough free tutorials and I am not 
> a professional programmer.
>
> I'd rather learn by video tutorials that's a weakness of mine...sorry.
>
> Such a beautiful language with so few tutorials, Elixir and other newer 
> languages have so much video tutorials for the newcomers...I really don't 
> understand.
>
> Even on the big platforms, Udemy, Pluralsight, Lynda, hard to find 
> tutorials...
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Em sábado, 9 de março de 2019 19:49:48 UTC-3, Marcin Piczkowski escreveu: 
>>
>> Hi, 
>> I've also started learning clojure a few months ago. I will tell you my 
>> story.
>>
>> The most painful at the beginning was to find the right environment 
>> setup, in particular the IDE. Many Clojure professionals advice to use 
>> Emacs but I could not get up to speed with it so I dropped it. I come from 
>> Java land where I got used to Intellij Idea so after a few fails of trying 
>> Emacs, Atom, LightTable etc, I decided not to loose more time on playing 
>> with IDEs and stick to the known Idea with Cursive plugin and concentrate 
>> on learning the language itself.
>>
>> I started reading the mentioned "Clojure for the Brave and True" (which 
>> by the way also proposes to use Emacs) and it is a great book, but 
>> personally I like more to follow video tutorials. Recently I found this one
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXsXu5srjNlxI7b2smnHxDeMMwR4mVZ2m
>>
>> and I liked it a lot. It's very concise and gives a good intro to Clojure.
>>
>> The next which I heard is quite good is a book titled  "Living Clojure" 
>> but I have not read it yet. 
>>
>> Instead, I went straight into ClojureScript because building sth visual 
>> is more motivating for me. I was also catched by it's advantages over 
>> Reactjs.
>> Then again I got lost with an amount of different approaches to build 
>> websites (with Reagent, Ohm, Figwheel, using leiningen or just .edn project 
>> setup)
>>
>> I found this free course about Reagent which was helpful for me helpful 
>> https://www.jacekschae.com/learn-reagent-free
>>
>> Then I looked for some examples of project setup with leiningen and 
>> figwheel because it looks to me like this is a more productive way (or tell 
>> me if I'm wronged and there is sth better and more commonly used in prod 
>> apps?) and I found a nice Tetris game, which I'm analyzing at the moment - 
>> http://timothypratley.blogspot.com/2015/07/you-should-be-using-figwheelreagent.html?m=1
>>
>> The next in more distant future on my list is to look at the real 
>> production web app built with ClojureScript - Circle CI, you can watch this 
>> video about it: 
>> https://youtu.be/LNtQPSUi1iQ
>>
>> Getting into the Clojure world is the most painful road from any roads to 
>> new programming language I had in the past but the elegance of the language 
>> and it's concepts make me feel motivated to take this effort. 
>>
>> Good lack on your way and if you have found any good learning sources I'd 
>> be happy if you share with me :)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019, 10:16 PM Rick Mangi <ri...@chartbeat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Clojure is only a few years older than Elixr.
>>>
>>> I'd recommend https://www.braveclojure.com/ as a great online 
>>> book/tutorial as a starting point.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> RIck
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 4:02 PM Matching Socks <phill...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clojure is pretty simple.  It works well.  And nothing in it has ever 
>>>> been deprecated.  In short, do not worry about finding a very new 
>>>> resource.  What kind of project would you like to start out with?
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