Hey everybody! I'm chiming in after seeing this linked to in The Repl (https://therepl.net/).
On Alex's suggestion, I rewatched Spec-ulation last night. The parts about negation and evolution are towards the end. I was struck (once again) by how clearly he picked apart changes. Relaxing a requirement is growth. And adding requirements is breakage. But it left me with a question: Isn't disallowing a key and then allowing it (as optional) growth (instead of breakage)? All of the old clients are still fine, and new clients can use the key if they choose. You're relaxing the requirements. Taking the opposite approach, I require some keys plus allow anything else. Some clients will inevitably send me something with extra keys, which is okay, they pass my specs. Later, I add in an optional key with a defined spec. So I'm now restricting what used to be completely open. Isn't that breakage? I feel like I'm seeing it exactly opposite as Rich Hickey. He says if you disallow things, it's forever, because if you need to allow it later, that's breakage. But there's not enough explanation for me to understand. It seems like relaxing requirements. I feel like I'm missing something. In short: why is it forever? He does mention is that logic engines don't have negation. Does this hint that we will want to be using logic engines to reason over our specs? Thanks Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.