2017-05-23 23:04 GMT+02:00 Colin Fleming <colin.mailingl...@gmail.com>:

> On 24 May 2017 at 00:13, Herwig Hochleitner <hhochleit...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>> I doubt the whole community would want to move anywhere from Slack.
>>
>
> Perhaps this will have to wait until Slack inevitably throws us off, then.
>
>
What I'm saying is, that the whole community isn't in a single place
anyway. Slack happens to be most popular, right now, but we are spread
across IRC, gitter / github, slack, mailing lists, discord, stack overflow,
reddit and probably many more.

IMO trying to move everybody to one thing is an exercise in futility, but
consuming / producing to / from all those places through a generic protocol
is a realistic hope, as matrix is proving right now.

It's a far cry from searching for "cursive" from anywhere in Clojurians,
> though. Searching for channels based on some vague criteria seemed
> difficult, and searching for Clojure related content across channels is
> also a pretty bad experience.
>

Granted, matrix' search facilities are far from optimal, as of now. But
unlike the alternatives, just about everybody could be (and somebody
probably is) improving on that.

There has been some talk of making a Clojure-related room directory in an
> external webpage or something but it's still a kludge. I'm not sure to what
> extent this would be fixed if we ran our own room server, but then someone
> has to maintain that.
>

Same. This is currently being worked on:
https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/2454

I'd just like to mention, that in the year or so, that I've been using
matrix, the stream of improvements has been pretty steady. So while it
might not currently do everything we need, it's the best hope for bridging
the community across all the various services that (will continue to) exist.

2017-05-23 23:31 GMT+02:00 Alan Moore <kahunamo...@coopsource.org>:

> I watched the matrix video linked above and it seems there is a Slack
> bridge that would allow Slack fans to stay put and others to choose their
> own client or even go back to IRC. What am I missing?
>

The slack bridge is working fine, but slack has a nagging limitation of one
bridged room per organization or some "monetization incentive" like that.

If slack allowed a full bridge, "slackpocalypse" and its message limit
would already be a solved problem. Such are the ways of proprietary
services ...

I too have no skin in this game... I still prefer this mailing list, as is
> self evident. I suppose I could build a matrix bridge for Google Groups.
>

related: https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-email-bot

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Andy Fingerhut <andy.finger...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have no skin in this game, but wasn't the move to Slack pretty much a
>> "vote with your feet" combined with word of mouth advertising?  It seems to
>> me the same could happen to add another on-line chat tool/system, without
>> anyone taking a poll/voting on this or any other medium.  We'll know when
>> it has happened by the rumor mill on Slack, IRC, and/or this email group.
>>
>
Agreed, hence I advertise matrix because I hope more people will see it as
a way, better than just a different silo.
If "feet" will still choose a silo, there'll be a matrix bridge, as good as
silo allows. Hence the risk of choosing wrong is minimized for everybody
switching to matrix.

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