Not sure where you are getting the assertion of equivalence from, it
certainly isn't what I meant. I think you missed my point, which is only
"Spec is great as we have the power of Clojure" - sure, just don't forget
you have the power of ANOther language in that language as well.

I think comparing Clojure Spec against _only_ a static typing machine to be
disingenuous, that's all.

Love, peace and goodwill to all :-).

On Friday, 7 April 2017, Didier <didi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @Colin Yates
>
> If spec is a DSL to describe invariants and the static typing of other
> languages are too, then it's not true that all static typing DSLs can
> express what the spec DSL can.
>
> If you say, could I build spec in other languages, or can I put asserts in
> the code using the full languages, ya off course you can, but not without
> considerable effort. Similarly, you can add static typing to Clojure, but
> that also comes with considerable effort.
>
> That's why people skip over this. Can I embed a haskell inside Clojure? I
> could. I could embed a Clojure inside Haskell too. But those are not a
> given feature provided to me for free as standard.
>
> So the discussion should center around what features I get for free. With
> spec, you get a very powerful description DSL, more powerful than most
> static typing ones. You get generative testing, parsing, validation,
> asserts and documentation. With static typing systems, you get a often less
> powerful description DSL, compile time type assertions, and documentation.
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