I feel like it should be obvious, but what are the acronyms (initialisms?) clj and cljc?
I'm assuming that cljs is ClojureScript. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:46 PM, John Newman <john...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, only Rich can really answer that question, right? :) But for me, > Clojure is increasingly becoming cljc. When a library advertises > compatibility in both clj and cljs, it just looks shinier to me. Feels like a > trend for Clojure libraries in general. And if agents and STM were on cljs, > I'd probably reach of those tools more often on both platforms. > > On that note, if some Clojure concurrency magician would implement a > lightweight threading library in cljc, which worked on both single-threaded > cljs (offloading to webworkers where available) and JVM/CLR, allowing for STM > on cljc... Hell, I'd throw down on a bounty for that. It would really bring > cljs and clj into closer parity. And it would make cljs even more appetizing > to js programmers. And it would reunite cljs with one of clj's original > selling points - how immutability and persistent structures allow for > unparalleled (lol) concurrency solutions. > > I almost got a rudimentary pmap thing working in cljs on core.async with > webworkers by using a binding-hack macro I found online somewhere. I couldn't > find great docs out there though on how to implement a lightweight threading > library. > > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 6:51 PM Didier <didi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The Specter post about if it should be made into core or not got me >> wondering what makes Clojure Clojure. >> >> I'm trying to wrap my head around what is the most minimal set of things >> that uniquely make up Clojure. >> >> Right now, in that set I've got: >> The Clojure syntax and its semantics >> The Clojure special forms and their semantics >> The Clojure core libraries and their semantics >> So if I implemented a compiler that worked with the above set, it would be a >> valid Clojure compiler. >> >> Now, ClojureScript appears to me like it is not Clojure, but a dialect of >> it. I say that because it breaks some of the syntax semantics of Clojure, >> like not allowing macros in the same namespace as functions. It also breaks >> some of the core semantics, like def creating standard JS vars and not >> Clojure Vars. In this respect, a language like hy-lang is also a Clojure >> dialect, granted it shares even less of the Clojure set. >> >> Is ClojureCLR a dialect of Clojure, or is it a true Clojure implementation? >> >> One last thing that is interesting about Clojure versus other languages is >> that it does not provide standard IO. These two things make it so that it is >> kind of dependent on its host to complete its offering as a programming >> language, which means any Clojure compiler will need to provide a mechanism >> for IO. Those would always differ from Clojures to Clojures, so I don't >> think that's part of what makes Clojure Clojure. >> >> What are others thoughts on this? >> >> P.S.: There's no point to this thread, its mostly curiosity. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your >> first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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