top right of page sort of points to it. I have problems finding stuff, too. I just realized only now that the stuff in the top right has two columns. There's also the problem that there's google's wiki in code.google, and there's wikibooks wiki. I'll have to check out JIRA. I personally LOVE edgewall trac: http://trac.edgewall.org/
it's a one stop shop. You can see things from all the views you'd ever care to: timeline, by source code, by issue . . . by type of issue, by user, priority, subsystem .... AND it's got robust wiki, so most things can just be internal links. Another thing, eveything is indexed and searchable. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, its no JIRA :-) ... didn't see it, should be a link from the > clojure.org page to it! > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Paul Barry <pauljbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What's wrong with google code? > > http://code.google.com/p/clojure/issues/list > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I'm always a fan of using a real issue tracking system; I'd love to > >> see Clojure using JIRA to track what's going on, and what's coming up, > >> in a public and visible way. It'll make it feel more like a community > >> project, less like a one-man show (I deal with that perception all the > >> time on Tapestry). > >> > >> I actually have a stable, permanent JIRA instance all set up: > >> http://tapestry.formos.com/jira. It would be a few minutes work to > >> set up a clojure project and get everyone registered. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Rich Hickey <richhic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Jan 23, 4:19 pm, Jason Wolfe <jawo...@berkeley.edu> wrote: > >> >> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Jason Wolfe < > jawo...@berkeley.edu> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> OK, if these are not wanted in core right now, will anyone sign > off > >> >> >> for adding them to clojure.contrib? > >> >> > >> >> > Well, *I* want these changes you've proposed in the core, but of > >> >> > course, I'm not in charge. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks. > >> >> > >> >> > I guess the real question is, what is the > >> >> > process to ensure that Rich sees and considers a potential core > >> >> > improvement like this? I think the main mechanism for this is to > >> >> > post > >> >> > it as an "issue" on google code, but I'm not certain whether you're > >> >> > supposed to post an issue unless he's seen the newsgroup thread and > >> >> > says, "Yes, that sounds good, please post it as an issue." But if > he > >> >> > misses the thread for some reason, that will never happen. So it's > a > >> >> > bit of a catch-22. Anyway, maybe someone can clarify the > procedure. > >> >> > >> >> Yes, it is not supposed to be posted as a core issue unless Rich OK's > >> >> it here. > >> >> > >> >> I just had a discussion about just this "meta"-issue on IRC. Chouser > >> >> says that Rich still reads every message on the group. See also the > >> >> further-up discussion in [1] for more procedural details, where it is > >> >> also suggested that an explicit sign-off here should be required for > >> >> posting clojure.contrib issues. > >> >> > >> >> [1]http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/msg/657291bc62c48f32?hl=en > >> >> > >> >> Anyway, I'm feeling quite frustrated and won't try to push this (or > >> >> any other) issue further. I know Rich and the team are very busy, > but > >> >> it really saps my will to contribute when I have to keep pushing to > >> >> get an authoritative answer (be it yes or no) on even (what seems to > >> >> me to be) a fairly uncontroversial change like this one, or [2]. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> [2] > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/5d11bc0da... > >> >> > >> >> Sorry for taking your question as a jumping off point for whining > >> >> about not getting attention. I guess my short answer is: the policy > >> >> is fairly clear, but its current implementation may be discouraging > >> >> potential contributors like myself. > >> >> > >> > > >> > I appreciate your desire to contribute, but Clojure is not just about > >> > your needs. You have flooded the group with every idea you have, some > >> > are bugs (important), some are good ideas, some not, but there are > >> > simply too many to address at the rate you are producing them. In > >> > addtion, sometimes you've made issues, and often blogged about them. > >> > So, for #2 the issue was addressed and you found out about it that > >> > way. I can't answer you (or anyone) in every forum. > >> > > >> > I'd advise you to be more patient, build up a small library of helper > >> > functions you use frequently, make contributions of the most important > >> > of them to contrib. Clojure doesn't change that fast and it's not > >> > going to. I like to consider things and I can't address every > >> > suggestion as it is made. > >> > > >> > Separate out the important things (like potential bugs) so they get > >> > more attention. > >> > > >> > As for these: > >> > > >> > - 0-arg distinct? returns true, not an exception (so (apply distinct? > >> > nil) = true) > >> > > >> > Not now, will consider. > >> > > >> > - rewrite concat so that (apply concat seq) doesn't evaluate the > >> > first three elements of seq > >> > > >> > No, may fall out of streams work. > >> > > >> > - make every?, not-every?, some, not-any? take multiple seq args like > >> > map, i.e., (every? not= [1 2 3] [2 3 4]) > >> > > >> > No. > >> > > >> > - allow arguments to merge-with after the first to be lists of > >> > pairs. > >> > > >> > No. > >> > > >> > Rich > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Howard M. Lewis Ship > >> > >> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. 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