On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 05:13:31PM +0100, Simon Hobson said:
> Sarcasm or not, I think you are far off the mark - but in any case,
> I'm sure cretin was used as one description, as was incompetent. As
> for commie freeloader - I don't think you could be much further from
> the truth, but that's my opinion and you're welcome to yours. And I
> don't believe I have at any point asked for anything other than to
> not have my system remotely borked. I haven't demanded that people
> keep providing updates to my AV sigs, or that they do anything for
> me - other than not borking my system.
> 
> The ClamAV team released the project under an open licence which
> allows anyone to use it in any way they wish. They then later take
> it upon themselves to impose by force* a 'solution'. If they'd
> stopped providing sig updates then I'd not be complaining, but that
> isn't what they did.

I think we've all gotten your point.  And of course you're free to use the
software as you see fit.  Just stop asking for free database updates, and
your older clamav will keep running quite happily, if rather irrelevantly.

I get that you're unhappy that they didn't have versioning support
for signatures in older versions, but since they didn't, they didn't.
Since it is precisely the people that won't upgrade that were bitten, I'm
not sure that releasing an upgrade resolving the issue would have helped.
Particularly since they tried that (it's the 0.95.x series) and people
still got bitten, since they refused to upgrade.  OK, possibly "refused
to upgrade" might be a bit strong - "were not aware that it is standard
practice to keep your security sensitive software reasonably up to date
when you do not have vendor support for it" might be a better phrase.

Faced with an old release of software that will die if the team uses
new functionality due to a known bug, and people who will not upgrade
to the version that fixes this bug, and a reasonably urgent need to use
the new functionality, what exactly would you have done differently?
Would you have ignored the issue and just starting using the new
functionality, leading to people running older releases getting clamd
crashes with incomprehensible error messages?  Would you have contacted
everyone personally to ask their permission?

Cheers,
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